GOLDENwww.mywife.cc

SENLinde.
htm(Onemonthdelay)Maybeothersourcesexist.
.
.
Cordialement,Martine&Jean-PaulFrom:solareclipsewebpages@btopenworld.
comDearMick,ThereisnoneedtoposeyourquestiontotheentireSEML.
Though,foreverybodythis:TheSolarEclipseNewsletter(SENL)coversallSolarEclipseMailingListmessages.
TheDecemberandJanuary(andtheSpecialedition)areatourwebpages.
http://solareclipsewebpages.
users.
btopenworld.
comExample:http://solareclipsewebpages.
users.
btopenworld.
com/SENL_files/Senl200212.
PDFThougharchivedversionsareavailableaswell.
TheSENL(sinceNovember1996)isavailableontheinternetandcanbedownloadedfreeofcharge.
See:http://www.
MrEclipse.
com/SENL/SENLinde.
htmSENL:http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/SENL/Index:http://www.
mreclipse.
com/SENL/SENLinde.
htmExample:http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/SENL/SENL0011.
pdfDoyouwanttoretrievesinglemessagesoftheSEML.
Havealookat:www.
astroarchive.
comIhopethishelpt.
Pleaseaskinfoofflineandnotontheentirelist.
Thankyou.
Bestregards,PatrickSETalkPage41Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERPictureof4De-cember2002eclipsebyDavidForshawNewPhotos/Reportof2002-12-04TSEfromCeduna(finally)From:GeoffTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Sun,05Jan200309:40:45Hey,Ihavefinallygotallmy(andothersinmygroup)photostogether,andhaveaddedthemtomywebsite.
SorryfortheHUGEdelay!
TherearestillquiteafewmoreIwouldliketoadd,butIamyettogetaccesstothem,anddon'twanttowaitanylongerbeforeshowingpeople(theyweremostlypeopleshotsduring/aftertheeclipse-nothingspecial).
Allthemainonesareup,Ihopeyouenjoythem.
Isureenjoyedtakingthem,andtheybringbackalotofawesomememories.
Whilstthereisnotaformalreport,Ihavemadeacommentrytogowitheachphoto,aswellasasmallintroduction.
Anyway,pleasecheckthemoutat:http://home.
iprimus.
com.
au/rsims/seclipse.
htmAndPLEASEletmeknowwhatyouthink-asmyfirsttotalsolareclipse,andfirstattemptatTSEphotographyIwouldverymuchliketoknowwhatpeoplethinkofthesephotos,andwouldappreciatebothpositive/negativefeedback.
Thanks,Geoff.
From:DaveSchmahlGeoff,Youshouldbeveryproudoftheworkyoupresentedonyourwebsite.
Itreallyisafinejob.
Iespeciallylikedyourwide-anglephotosshowingtheeclipse,cloudsandreflectionontheocean.
DaveSchmahlVista,CAFrom:DavidMakepeaceIagreewithDave.
Greatstuff,Geoff!
>Iwouldverymuchliketoknowwhatpeoplethinkofthesephotos,andwouldappreciatebothpositive/negativefeed-back.
IagreewithDave.
Nicework,Geoff!
Youshouldbeverypleased.
IespeciallylikethediamondringPuffshot!
Youdon'toftenseea500mmshotoftotalitywithcloudsartisticallyplaced!
Nicelydone.
DavidMakepeaceToronto,CanadaUmbraLog1281http://www.
eclipseguy.
comTSE2002Page42Volume8,Issue12SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERTSE2002ImagesfromLindonStationSWAustraliaFrom:GlennSchneiderTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Sun,05Jan200308:01:27Ihaveplacedapreliminaryphotographicreport(withimages,ofcourse)fromTSE2002takenfromLindonStationSWAustralia:Latitude:-029°07'53.
0'',Longitude:+140°53'50.
0''at:http://nicmosis.
as.
arizona.
edu:8000/ECLIPSE_WEB/ECLIPSE_02/TSE2002_IMAGES.
htmlCheers,GlennSchneiderFrom:HarveyWassermanGlenn,Whatabeautifulsequenceofhigh-resphotos-http://nicmosis.
as.
arizona.
edu:8000/DETCAL/TSE2002_HIRES_GALARY/TSE2002_HIRES_GALLERY.
htmCongratulations.
Theselookliketheywouldmakeagreatmoviestrungtogether.
FYIIm-agesH23_25andH10_25arenotdisplayed.
HarveyWassermanFrom:GlennSchneiderThanks.
Actually,theyhavebeen(strungtogether)already:http://nicmosis.
as.
arizona.
edu:8000/DETCAL/TSE2002_REALTIME_1FPS.
mov(a32Mbytedowbload-sorryforthesize).
Oops.
Filenameerror(s)onthosetwogalleryframes.
Youcandisplaythembylistingthedirectoryandclickingontheirnames.
-GS-2002eclipseviewingsitesFrom:SheridanWilliamsTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Sun,05Jan200313:29:19TheseareavailablefordownloadaspushpinsforEncartaWorldAtlas2001.
Theyhavesmileyfacesifsuccessful,sadfacesifcloudedout,andmediocrefacesifpartiallycloudy.
Downloadfrom:www.
clock-tower.
com/eclipse.
htmTSE2002Page43Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERBaobabEclipse-Reportof4-Dec-2002eclipse,SouthAfricaFrom:KatherineLowTo:"'SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COM'"Date:Tue,14Jan2003Dearfriends,FinallyImanagedtogetmyreportofthelast4-Dececlipseready.
Pleasefindthetextbelow(copiedfromaWorddocument).
IfyourareinterestedintheWorddocument(35KB)ortheWorddocumentwithpicturesincluded(8MB),pleasemailmeprivately.
Ialsocreatedanewonlinealbumcalled'SouthAfrica2002'at:www.
picturetrail.
com/krisdelcourtewithmorepicturesontheeclipse.
BaobabEclipseWednesday,04December200203:30IsuddenlywakeupinmytentatthecampsiteoftheTshipiseAventuraResort.
Katherineisalreadyupandanxiouslymonitoringtheactivitiesofothercampersnoisilymovingaroundthefullypackedcampsite.
"Manypeoplealreadyspeedingoff!
",shescreams.
WhenIcrawledoutofthetentafewminuteslater,stillhalfasleep,Ilookdesperatelyatapartiallycloudedsky.
Itisstilldark,somestarsaretwinklingthroughafewclearpatches.
Itisespeciallythistypeofcloudsthat'swor-ryingme.
Nottheoccasionalcumulustypethateasilydissolvesunderaheatingsun,butratherthestructuredtypeannounc-ing,atleastinWest-Europe,anapproaching'coldfront'.
Andsayingthat,aroundmidnightIwasstilladmiringthestarsbrightlyshiningfromthedark,transparentsky,asdarkasAfricanskiescanbe.
Let'sprayandhopeforthebest!
04:15WearereadytoleavetheTshipisecampsite.
Daylightiscomingthrough.
ManycarsareleavingtheTshipiseresortEclipseimagesfromPurpleDowns,SouthAustraliaFrom:TimoKarhulaTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Wed,15Jan200314:16:51Hiall,HereisalinktosomeimagesofthesolareclipseasseenfromPurpleDowns,SouthAustralia.
IrecordedthemwithmySonyCCDTRV65Eanalogvideocamera.
Now,Icopiedtheshortmovietoafriend'sdigitalcamcor-der,downloadeditasanmpegmovieandgrabbedimagesfromitwiththefreewareIrfanview.
ThelastfivephotosshowthebirthofaGreen(ish)flash.
Thesearetakenwith72xdigitalmagnificationandnofilters.
Clickoneachthumbailtogetlargerpix.
http://www.
imira.
com/Album/GuestView.
aspAID=729960&BackURL%2Falbum%2FMemberListAlbum%2Easp%3FCPIndex%3D0/TimoKarhulaEclipsetourpicturesnowpostedFrom:eclipse98TTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Fri,17Jan200308:23:14TheHoleintheSkyPhotoandWritingcontesthasnowclosed.
IhaveuploadeddozensofpicturesfromthisyearsTSEfromZimbabwe,EastCoastofAfrica,andAustralia.
Inad-dition,thereare4pagesof"fun"picturesofsomeoftheanimalsthatwereseen,andsomeoftheplacesthatthisyear'seclipsehuntersvisited.
Youcanviewthecontestentriesatwww.
holeinthesky.
com.
Iwouldbehappytopostadditionalwork,forthoseofyouwhowouldliketoshareyourworkwithawideraudience.
Iamparticularlyinterestedintheeclipsepicturesfromothersites,andthosewhichshowasenseof"place",thatal-lowstheviewertoidentifythelocationoftheshot.
ClearSkies,Jerrywww.
holeinthesky.
comeclipse98@earthlink.
netPage44Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERnowandallheadinginthedirectionofPafuri.
Thereisabigobservationsiteinthatdirectionpreparedby'AfricanItch'andhostingvariouslocalandoverseasparties.
WhereasweheadofftheoppositedirectionalongtheroadleadingtoMessina.
Lookslikewearetheonlyonedrivinginthisdirection.
ArewesurewearerightIamdrivingratherslowlysinceitisstilltwilight,atthesametimemonitoringtheevolutionoftheclouds.
MovingawayfromTshipise,itappearsforamomentthatIamheadingtowardsaclearbluesky,leavingallthecloudsbehindme.
InoticeatendencyforthecloudstostayoverthemountainrangeoftheSouthpansberg.
ApproachingthebaobabreservenearMessinaweareinforasurprise.
Allthenicebaobabtreesstilllookingsoattractiveandunspoiltfewdaysagohavenowbeen'occupied'.
Peopleseemtospendthenightunderthebaobabs,eitherputuptentsovernightorsleepinginthecarorsnugglingintheirsleepingbagsoutside.
Theyarebarelywakingupandpreparingforthebigevent.
05:00JustbeforethetownofMessina,weturnrightintotheMalalaDrift.
Wewitnessabeautifulredsunrisingfrombe-hindabaobab-filledhorizon.
ThisroadjoinstheLimpopoRiverabitfurtherandleadstothecentralline.
Weseepeopleeverywherealongtheroadsidenow:underbaobabs,onkoppies,rocksoranypossibleelevatedgrounds.
Somepeopleclimboverthehighfencesandmanagetoreachthetopoftherockyhills.
After8kmthetarmacendsandturnsintoadirtroad.
"Ourbaobab"treeissituatedatkm21.
We"discovered"thistree2daysagoduringourreckytrip.
Thetreehasmagnificentbranchesandimpressiveproportions.
Therearenofencesontheadjacentagriculturalland.
InthedirectiontowardstheWest,there'sagoodviewoverthealmostdried-upLimpopoRiverwhichwouldallowustoseetheshadowofthemoonapproachingfromoverthesandybedding.
Greatspot,itisbooked!
AsIdrivefurtheralongthisroad,myfearshavebeenconfirmed.
FromfarIcouldseeaVWcombiparkedunderour"booked"baobabtree.
Agirlstandingnexttoitwhileablokesleepsnearby.
Weaksmokeisstillcomingoutfromaleftovercampfire.
Twoemptybottlesexplaintherest.
Italktothewomantotellherweintendtoobservefromhere(ifshedoesn'tmind),shemakesthe'sssssssh'fingersign,thenpointingto2othersstillsleepinginthevan.
06:00Thesunisgettingbrighter.
Halfdisappointedthatsome"aliens"haveoccupiedmyspot,Islowlyunpackmysimpleequipment,setupthetripodandmountmyconventional35mmcameraequippedwithamanual28mmf2.
8lensandwitharemotetriggerrelease.
Thedaybefore,Iperformedthelastrehearsal:ittakesslightlymorethan1minutetowalkthroughthedifferentshutterspeedsofmyprogram.
Thisleaveslessthan20secondstohaveavisualviewwiththebinocularsandtoenjoythedetailsofcoronaandprominences.
Beforefirstcontact,Iobservesuspiciouslythecloudpatterns.
Thehigher,thinnercumuluscloudsarenotarealthreat,butmoreandmorelowercumuluscloudsaremovinginthedirectionofthesun.
Theyarecomingfromthesouth-eastdirection,fromovertheSouthpansberg.
Soonthefirstcloudwillreachthesun.
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initially,notforverylong,butmorecloudsseemapproachingandthewhitecolouristurningintoadarkgrey.
Inthedirec-tionofMessinaandZimbabwe,theskystilllooksblue.
AlthoughthecloudsareheadingintothatdirectionandwilleventuallyalsoreachMessina,itismyopinionthatthechancesofhavingabreak-openwillbebiggerinthedirectenvironmentofMessina.
AtthatmomentIamstartingtothinkofmakingamoveintothedirectionofMessina.
07:12.
Firstcontactisverywellvisiblebutsoonafterwards,thedarkercloudsarereachingthesun.
Thecloudsappearsonumerous,thatwedecidetopackupandmoveontoourcontingencylocation.
Iquicklyfoldthelegsofthetripodtogether,leavingthecameramountedonit.
Katherinetakesoverthewheelsandheadinthedirectionoftheskyopenings.
WedecidetomovetotheArtonVilla.
TheArtonVillaisanotherpossibleobservationsiteweprospected2daysago.
Itisnicelylocatedatthetopofahillwithsomebao-babtreesandbush-landfreelyaccessible.
Weseemtobetheonlyonesmakingthismove.
Peoplestarestrangelyatusaswedriveoffduringthepartialphaseoftheeclipse,leavingthembehindinabigcloudofdust.
Afteradriveofabout13kmswereachthetarmacroadagainandweturntowardsArtonVilla.
Theplaceisalmostdeserted.
Thereisonly1familywithapick-upvehiclewhenwearriveandanotherbakkieiscomingsoonafterus.
Thenicebigbaobabtreeisstillunoccupied,waitingforme!
Iquicklyputthetripodinposition.
07:45Sincefirstcontact,thesunhasbeenhidingbehindthecloudsmostofthetime.
Suddenlyitappearsagaininabluepatch,andyetanotherbluepatch.
Atsomemomentswecanseewiththenakedeye,filteredthroughtheclouds,thebigdarkbitethemoonatefromthesolardisk.
08:00Thereisabiggerclearingcomingup,thenthesundisappearsagain.
Thetensionisrising:still18minutestogobeforetotalityandtherearestill3darkcloudsthathavetopassthesun.
Afterthat,weseeahugeblueclearing!
'Itwilljustbefine!
'shoutsKathe-rine,'becausethewindisverystrong'.
TSE200208:12Itisstill6minutesbeforetotalityasthemiraclehappens.
Godhasansweredourprayers!
Thesunisallintheclearandthespectaclecanstartinallitsglory!
Coloursarefadingtogrey,shadowsaregettingsharper,birdsaresingingveryloud.
TheEuropeanswallows,currentlyalsooneclipseexpeditioninAfrica,aremadlyflyingaround.
Theeeriefeeling,thecoolbreeze:allthesensationsthatmakeaneclipseexperiencesouniqueandunforgettablearepresent.
08:15Abirdcomestositonmybaobab.
08:18TotalitystartswithamagnificentseriesofBaileybeadsatthesouthernedgeofthesun.
Prominencesarevisibleat5and6o'clock.
Thecoronaisquitesymmetric,nevertheless,ithassomepronouncedstreamersinthe3o'clockdirec-tion.
Thehorizonhasadarkyellow-orangelikecolour.
Theskydoesnotlookthatverydarktome.
Aftermyphotopro-gram,Ihaveapeepthroughthebinos.
Ooops,theocularisoutoffocus,musthavebeenduringtheaction.
Severalprominencesappearatthenorthernlimitofthesunwhichisnowgettingbrighterandannouncingquicklytheendofto-tality.
Wewitnessanotherbeautiful,longdiamondring.
Asuddenincreaseinlightintensityisapparent.
Itisasifsome-bodyhasswitchedonthelightagain.
Needlesstosaythatthese80secondshavepassedfartoofast.
Suddenly,loudmusicisplayingfromacarradio.
AyoungAfricancoupleisstanding,hugging,kissinganddancingintheopenbackoftheirpick-upwhileKatherineistakingpicturesofthem.
Theeclipseisoverandonceagainit'sbeenagreatsuccess.
Wearerelievedthateverythingturnedoutsowell.
Lateron,wemeetpeoplewhostayedattheTshipiseresort.
Theyhavebeencompletelycloudedout.
AlsomostoftheobserversalongtheR525roadtoPafuriincludingtheAfricanItchobservationsitehadnochoicebuttoexperiencetheeclipsefrombehindtheclouds.
Wehavelearnedtheimportanceofbeingmobileandtoinvesttimeintosurveyingaroundlook-ingforcontingencylocations.
Theclassicalwaytoendaneclipsestoryistolookaheadatthenextone.
SincetheAntarctica2003andthePacific2005eclipseareprobablyoutofourreach,itlookslikewewillgoforanotherAfricanone:NigerorLibya.
Whilewaitingtill2006,wewillfillupthetimewithsomeannularonesandsomeotherdestinationsthatfiguresincelongtimeonmywishlist.
KrisDelcourteFrom:CliffTurkKris,ThemountainsinyouremailaretheSoutpansberg,withoutthe"h"whichyousogenerouslygivethem.
Theyhavenothingtodowith"south"asthemeaningof"sout"issalt!
Incidentally,your"Bailey's"beadssouldalsobe"Baily's"CliffTurkFrom:KatherineLowHiCliff,Thanksforyourcorrections.
IndeedasaFlemishspeakingIshouldhaveknownthat"sout"is"zout"(salt)andtheBai-ley'smusthavebeentheinfluenceoftheIrishCream.
Bytheway,referringtotheKrugerleaflet,theshadowoftotalityistravelingataspeedof3000km/hinsteadof300km/h.
AtypoerrorIguess.
KrisTSE2002Page45Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERWirraminnapicturesatlastFrom:ChrisMalickiTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Sun,19Jan200300:53:05Ihavefinallypostedafewpicturestogetherwithmyarticleathttp://webhome.
idirect.
com/~kmalicki/Australia%20eclipse.
htmPleasenotethattheflagwhichJimLowmen-tionsinthisarticleisvisibleontwoofmypictures.
ThetraininthebackgroundhooteditshornwhenAmyandLizpa-radedaroundwiththeirflagsonthemorningaftertheeclipse.
ChrisMalickiPicturesofthe2002TSEfromCedunaFrom:SheridanWilliamsTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Thu,23Jan200317:39:18IhavebeenaskedbyCharlieBritten(charlie@gerkin.
freeserve.
co.
uk)whoisnotamemberoftheSEMLforwebsiteswithpicturesoftheeclipsefromCe-duna.
IfyoucanhelppleaseemailtheURL'sdirectlytohim.
Thank-youtoanyonewhocanhelp.
BestwishesSheri-danWilliamsMoreimagesoftheDecember4thTSEfromKoolymilka,AustraliaFrom:ArneDanielsenTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Wed,15Jan200319:12:41Dearfriends,IhavefinallyfoundtimeprocessanduploadafewmoreimagesoftheDecember4thtotalSolareclipse.
Thefirsttwoimagesareclose-upsoftheprominences;http://home.
online.
no/~arnedani/astronomy/astrophoto/eclipse/20021204/D60-0927prot9.
htmhttp://home.
online.
no/~arnedani/astronomy/astrophoto/eclipse/20021204/D60-0927prot4.
htmThenthereare3compositeimages;http://home.
online.
no/~arnedani/astronomy/astrophoto/eclipse/20021204/D60-0927to0934m.
htmhttp://home.
online.
no/~arnedani/astronomy/astrophoto/eclipse/20021204/D60-0927to0934.
htmhttp://home.
online.
no/~arnedani/astronomy/astrophoto/eclipse/20021204/D60-0927to0934and0914.
htmTheseimageswheremadefromcombining8exposureswithdifferentexposurelength.
I'mverygratefultoMikkelSteine(http://www.
messier45.
com)forhelpingmeprocesstheseimages!
!
Feedbackontheimages,especiallythecompositeimages,aremostwelcome!
Bestregards,ArneFrom:KlipsiAWESOME!
themorecompositeimagesfromvariousartists('causethisisadvancedart,nomoresimplephoto)Iseeofthatdecember4outercorona,themoreIamstunned,fascinatedbyitsweirdshape.
Itrytofindaknownformorani-maloranythingtocompareitwith.
ItkeepstellingmeIhaveseenthisshapebefore,butwhere,whenWhatisitWhatdoesitlooklikeItisnotsymetricallikeabutterfly.
Itisnotanangel.
Itiswildbuthasbeauty.
Itisdisorganizedlikethe1991coronabutmuchmore.
Ithaslongelegantfeathers.
Itflies.
Itisclosetoheaven.
Itlookslike.
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aflyingparadisebird!
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http://images.
google.
ch/imagesq=Paradise+bird&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=deKlipsiFrom:StigLinanderArne,Congratulations!
IloveD60-0927to0934.
htm-IMHOthebestcompositesofar.
Well-Iwascloudedout(KNP)-soIcomparewithmymemoryofthe1999and2001TSE's.
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Bestregards,Stig.
From:rybrks1@cs.
comTheimagesbyArneDanielsenwereexcellent.
Theimagehttp://home.
online.
no/~arnedani/astronomy/astrophoto/eclipse/20021204/D60-0927prot9.
htmshowedextremelywellthehydrogenreflectionofphotospherebrightnessImentionedrecentlyatthebaseofthechromosphereandpromineces.
Ray-mondBrooksFrom:solareclipsewebpages@btopenworld.
comWhyistheinnercorona,attheveryinside,slightlypinktintedWesawthecoronaonce,in1999quitepinkish,attheinsides.
bestregards,PatrickFrom:JohnLX200@aol.
comThatisareallynicephotoforonly60mmofaperture.
Youseemtoberightabouttherebeingreflectionsofphotosphere,especiallyattheprominences.
I'dalwayssortofnoticedtheunevennatureofchromospherebrightness,anditsabilitytopredictbeadlocationsatC3,andtoconfusetheissueofwhentotal-ityexactlystarted/ended,especiallyonvideo.
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butInevergaveitanydetailedthoughtoranalysis.
Ithinkitwillbeausefulexer-ciseformetoreviewmyphotosandvideosofpreviouseclipseswiththisinmind,toseehowgoodacorrelationIcanfind.
(Continuedonpage47)TSE2002Page46Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERMy1999videoofgrazingtotalityshowsconclusivelythatitcanbedifficulttotellaphotosphericbeadfromaphoto-sphericbeadreflection,toanextentwherethedurationoftotalityisaffectedbyupto6seconds.
Alljustfromdiffer-encesofopinionaboutwhetheranyphotosphereisthereyet,whenviewingthesametapemanytimes.
Whenviewinganotherexpeditionmember'stapetakenwithanidenticalcamcorderbutdifferentzoomsettingandhencephysicalaper-tureandperhapsexposuresetting,theissuegetsevenmoreconfused.
Thereflectionsarequitebrightinthe2002photoRayreferredto,especiallyconsideringthattheexposureisshortertogetproperlyexposedchromosphere,thantheexposurewouldbeintypicalphotosofinnercorona,whichitselfisquitebright.
Ontheotherhand,itisalongerexposurethanistypicalfor(large)beads.
I'dbeinterestedtofindouthowmanysquarearcsecondsofphotospherewouldberequiredtomakeabeadofequalbrightnesstothesereflectionspotsseenduringtotality.
Thenwecouldsetaboutfiguringoutwhetherthe2005"smallisland"near-totalityviewwouldhavephotosphericbeadsbrighter,dimmer,oraboutthesameasthese"photosphericreflectionbeads"associatedwiththeprominencesseenin2002.
Then,formanysecondsthenear-totalityviewwouldbewithinsomereasonablefactorinbrightness,ofabrighter-than-averagetotalityview.
Thewholeassumptionthatin1925,97thStreetandRiversideDrive(mymother'slocation,aswellassomeofthe"officialobservers")was"THElimitoftotality",mustalsobeputintocontext.
Theobserverssouthoftherecoulddetectvianakedeye,abeadwhichneverwasextinguished,whilethosenorthofthere,couldnotseeitatthe"moment"ofto-tality.
CouldtheyhaveseenanobjectthebrightnessofVenus,orSirius,orsomethingdimmer,asmakingtheeclipsepartial,hadsuchanobjectbeennexttothelimbofthemoonWhat"starmagnitude"isrequiredofabeadsoasnottojustblendintotheinnercorona,orchromosphere,or(asRaysuggests)thebrightreflectionsofphotosphereoffapromi-nenceAsafunctionofbeadshapeandbrightness,youcouldcalculatehowfarnorththe"truelimit"ofphotosphericvisibilitythroughaverylargetelescopewouldhavebeendisplacedfromthenaked-eyelimit.
Ihopenobodyhastakenthe1925naked-eyelimitdataastheabsolutelimitandpluggeditinalongsidemoreaccurateelectronicoccultation-timingmeasurements,toextrapolateanythingbackwardintime.
Oneshouldfirstcalculatethelunar-valleyarearequiredfornaked-eyevisibilityatC2/C3ofazero-lengtheclipsebysemi-untrainedobservers,thenexaminethelimbprofileanddeterminetherequiredoffsetdistancetogivethatareaofphotosphereshowing,ratherthanzero.
Regards,JohnHopperFrom:RobertBSlobinsPatrick,Joanne,heregoes:Thecolourofthechromosphereisacomplexcolour.
WetakeawholelotofH-alphared,H-betablue,andH-therestviolet.
ThisoughttomakeMagenta.
ThenaddinCa-violetandHe-yellowandthereyouhaveit,wierdhotpink.
IwonderwhatthePantonecolournumberis.
Ifanyonecandirectmetosoftwarethatonecanusetocombinecolour,orproducethewaveformthataddstheselines,Iwouldappreciateit.
IsortofforgetmyFourieranalysis:-(Iguessthatthedustintheinnercoronaisreflectingchromosphericlight.
In1999,solarmax,thereismorechromosphereupataltitidethanatsolarminimum.
Myquestion:Wasthisanaked-eyesightingorphotographic/videosighting.
WhatwereatmosphericconditionslikeIhaveneverseenthiseffectinthe11totalsIhaveseen.
Indeed,Ihaveanimageofthe1995eclipsethatshowsabrightwhitebandabovethechromosphere.
Iguessthatthisiswherethemilliondegreetemperatureoccurs.
Ihavepostcardsmadeupshow-ingthisimage,inadditiontohavingtheimagepublishedinSkyNewsandSterneundWeltraum.
cheers/rbsFrom:Jay.
M.
Pasachoff@williams.
eduIagreewithMr.
Slobins.
TheverynicepicturefromKoolymilkaseemstometoshowabandofchromosphere,whichappearspinkish,mixedinwithsomewhitefromeitheroverexposureorthetopofthephotosphere.
Mr.
Slobins'sexplanationofthecolor(Continuedonpage48)TSE2002Page47Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERofthechromosphereiscorrect.
Sothisisagreatchromosphericpicture.
Thereissomefaintwhiteaboveitthatcouldbetheinnercorona,butIdon'tseeanyreddishinit.
Idon'tseeanyorhardlyanystructureinthatwhitehaze,soitcouldbereflectionsorscatteringintheEarth'satmosphere.
JayPasachoffFrom:solareclipsewebpages@btopenworld.
comWeobservedthe1999totalsolareclipseinexcellentconditions(verytransparent)inIran.
Ofcourse,theobservationswherevisual.
Inevermakeobservationalstatementsonpicturesorvideoshots.
OfallsolareclipsesIhaveobserved(havealookonourwebpagesbutIthinkitis15total),wedidnotobservethesekindofcoronatintsearlierofafterthe1999TSE.
Bestregards,patrickFrom:RobertBSlobinsIhaveseveralimagesfromdifferenteclipsestakennear2nd/3rdcontactthatshowsthechromosphere'bleeding'intotherestoftheimage.
Iliketheeffectandtryforitateacheclipse.
cheers/rbsTSE2002Page48Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTEREclipseof2002Dec4From:JimLowTo:SolarEclipseDate:Thu,16Jan200300:52:32Okay,here'smymaidenposttothisgroup.
Let'shopeIgotitright.
ItouredAustraliafortwomonths,timingitfortheeclipseonDecember4.
Itwasmy11theclipse.
Lookingforwardto2006.
Myreport,alongwithafewpictures,areatmywebsite:http://members.
rogers.
com/jimlow/ec2002.
htmlandI'lladdmorewhenIgettime.
-JimLowTorontoCentre,RoyalAstronomicalSocietyofCanadavrania@rogers.
comFrom:ChrisMalickiJimLowstatesinhisreport:"AlthoughIdidn'tmeetanyoneelsefromCanada,sometoldmetheysawagroupflyingtheCana-dianflagabouttwokilometresdowntheroad.
AsIhadalreadystartedmyregulareclipseobservationprogramofmakingtem-peratureobservationswhenIheardabouttheotherCanadians,Icouldn'tsearchforthem.
Okay:whoelsefromtheRASCcamethatIdon'tknowabout"AsIwrotetotheRASClist,andtotheSElist,IwasflyingalargeCanadianflag21/2kmfromthecentrelineveryclosetoJim'ssite.
Iamverydelayedinpostingphotosonmywebsitebutwilldososoon,includingaphotoofmysitewiththeCanadianflag.
ChrisMalicki"Carryingusaway,Ohevermoreaway,Time"(1967)http://webhome.
idirect.
com/~kmalickiAnother2002website(ortwo)From:StephenRussellTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Sat,01Feb200301:39:28Hieveryone.
I'vefinallymanagedtocreatetwowebsiteswithphotosandstoriesfromthe2002eclipse.
Thefirstisonmyper-sonalwebsitehttp://users.
bigpond.
net.
au/smr/ecl02.
htmlTheotherisformylocalastronomyclub,theIAS.
FollowtheEclipse2002linksfromthehomepage.
http://members.
optusnet.
com.
au/~smr/Iexpecttoputsomehigherresandcompositeshotsonmysiteinthenearfuture.
Cheers,Steve.
Wendy'sDoneitagain(outdoneherself,actually).
.
.
From:GlennSchneiderTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Sat,01Feb200308:51:46Ifyouhaven'tseenWendy'srecentlypostedworkonTSE2002,don'tdelayforanothersecond.
Youareinforatreat:http://www.
wendycarlos.
com/eclipse/02eclipse.
html-GS-TSETSE20022002Page49Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERTSE2002GoldenTotalityFrom:GlennSchneiderTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Fri,31Jan200307:33:38ForonceI'llbebrief:http://nicmosis.
as.
arizona.
edu:8000/ECLIPSE_WEB/ECLIPSE_02/TSE2002_TOTALITY_IMAGES.
htmlIbelievethisimplicitlyspeakstothreequestions/issueswhichwerediscussedinthisforumbeforethiseclipse1.
Willasolarelevationofonly1.
5degreessignificantlydegradeaneclipseobservation(duetotheverylargeairmass)2.
How"bad"willeclipsephotographybeatISO3200.
I'lllettheimagesspeakforthemselves,andyoudecide.
.
.
FYI-Ifthelunardisklookselliptical,don'tbotheradjustingyourmoni-tor.
.
.
thatisindeedrefraction.
GlennSchneiderFrom:Vic&JenWinterGlenn,Ireallylikeyourcontactsheetfile.
Itwasdisappointingtobeteasedbyallthebeautifulthumbnailsandnothavethechancetozoomincloselyontheinterestingones.
Inparticular,I'mveryinterestedinlookingatyourframeentitled,"H23_50".
I'veheardsomanythingssaidaboutthenearfull-diskchromosphereviewofthiseclipseasseenfromAustralia;butthusfarnotseenanygreatphotorepresentationofthis.
DoyouhaveanyscansofthefileIlookedinthe"highresimagegallery"anditwasmissingforsomereasoninthedirectorylisting.
LooksprettyGOLDENtome!
ClearSkies,jenFrom:HarveyWassermanGreatphotos,Glenn.
Thanks.
WhatisthebandofredatthetopIsthis'real'oranartifactHarveyFrom:JoelMoskowitzThemostthatthechromospherecouldbeseenwasabout1/3aroundthedisk,Therestofitwereprominencesandprobablyareflec-tionofthenon-visiblepartofthechromospherebythecorona.
Iuploadedaframefrommyvideothatillustratesthis:http://homepage.
mac.
com/joelmoskowitz/ECLIPSE/PhotoAlbum9.
htmlJoelM.
Moskowitz,M.
D.
From:GlennSchneiderIhavepostedadditionalimagesfromTSE2002tomywebserverat:http://nicmosis.
as.
arizona.
edu:8000/ECLIPSE_WEB/ECLIPSE_02/TSE2002.
htmlWhichistheURLfromwhichallfutureimagesandinformationwillalsobelinked.
Iwillcontinuetoworkonthisoverthenextseveraldays,socheckbackoccasionally.
Sorryfortheearlieromission.
Youcanfindthis"missing"frameontheabovepage.
See:CHROMOSPHERE:PRELUDETOCONTACTIII(Thereisastorybehindthisoneparticularim-age,butI'llputthattogetheronmyserverasthiscontinuestoevolve.
Inthemeantimetheimagewillhavetospeakforitself).
ThatISanimageartifact,duelightscatter/diffusionwithinthered-sensitivelayerofthefilmitselffromtheseratherdeeplyexposedimagesintheinnercorona.
Ihadthoughtto"edititout"butdidn'tatthispoint.
Moretocome.
Cheers,-GS-From:GlennSchneiderActually,justbeforethirdcontact,thechromosphericarcextendedmorethanafullhemisphere.
http://nicmosis.
as.
arizona.
edu:8000/ECLIPSE_WEB/ECLIPSE_02/DECON_FRAME_23_50.
jpgThatframe(unfortunately)wasaffectedbysome"jitter",butIthinktheextentofthechromosphericarcisunamniguous.
GlennSchneiderFrom:JoelMoskowitzIwouldhavetoagreewithGlenn.
BynoweveryonehasheardabouttheShuttledisaster.
Howterrible.
Page50Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERPictureofTSE2002byEllenBruijnsNASAWebSiteforASE2003From:FredEspenakTo:SOLARECLIP-SES@AULA.
COMDate:Tue,07Jan200315:11:09NASAWebSiteforASE2003I'vejustcreatedanewwebsiteontheAnnularSolarEclipseof2003May31.
Thewebsiteincludeshighandlowresolutionversionsofmapsappear-ingintheNASApublica-tionTP2002-211618"AnnularandTotalSolarEclipsesof2003".
Thesitealsoincludesta-blesofBesselianele-ments,geographiccoordi-natesofthepathofantum-bralshadow,physicalephemerisoftheantum-bra,topocentriclimbpro-filecorrections,andlocalcircumstancesforseveralhundredcities.
Mostofthesetablesaretakendi-rectlyoutoftheNASA2003eclipsepublication.
Theaddressofthe2003AnnularSolarEclipsewebsiteis:http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003.
htmlInthecomingweeks,Iwilladdweatherprospects,thelunarlimbprofilesandandotherrelevantdata.
Pleasecontactmeaboutanytypos,correctionsorsuggestions.
I'dalsoliketothankMichaelGillforkindlyreviewingthecon-tentofthiswebsitebeforemakingitpublic.
-FredEspenakASE2003Page51Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTER31May,2003-AnyplansFrom:klipsi@bluewin.
chTo:SOLARECLIP-SES@AULA.
COMDate:Fri,10Jan200314:36:38>Klipsi-Yes,Ilookedatthatflightafteryourfirstposting.
Thissoundslikeaplanwithexcellentpros-pects,butIwouldneedtogetbackandforthfromFloridatoSeattletomakeithappen-justnotinthebudget,unfortunately.
notnecessarily,Iwouldthink.
Youcantrytogetanopenjawroudntripticket.
FirstFloridatoAmster-dam,viaSeattleandNW34,andreturnAmsterdamtoFloridadirectly.
IfcomparerateswithKLM,astheyarecodesharepartnerswithNW.
NW34issameasKLM6034.
thiskindofopenjawcombinationmaybedifficulttogetoverawebsite.
Bestaskatravelagent,orKLM/NWtollfreenumbers,andexplainwhatyouwanttodo:flytoAmsterdamfromFloridaviaSeat-tleNW34/KLM6034onMay30,andreturnstraighttoFlorida.
KLMsometimeshasamazinggooddeals.
IoncegotaflightGenevaSwitzerlandtoDallasTX,roundtripforabout290US$.
Ofcourse,thecheapestticketsimplyusuallyamini-mumstayatdestination(Amsterdam)of7nights,oratleastthenightofSaturdaytoSunday.
>Ilovethatthiseclipsehappensonthe"far"sideoftheearth,ifyouwill.
HowrareisthatItisunusual,butnotextremelyrare.
The2000July30/31partialeclipseIsawinCanada'sHighArctic,onBaffinIsland,afewhoursbeforelocalmidnightJuly30,whileitwas"ontheotherside"daytimeinarcticSibiriaJuly31.
KlipsiASE2003Page52Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERTriptoASEinIslandFrom:GernotMeiserTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Tue,14Jan200315:35:25AnyinterestforashortorganizedtourtotheASEat31MayinIs-land!
WecanwarmlyrecommendthesmallagencyICE-ZEIT,run-ningbyMichiArnoldandAntoniawhoareIslandspecialistssinceyears.
.
.
Informationsaboutthetripatwww.
ice.
zeit.
deorinasummaryhere-under:BestregardsPascaleDemy&GernotMeiserICELANDSolarEclipseTourTriptotheannularsolareclipse/5days29.
5.
-2.
6.
2003Tripthroughafantasticlandscapeandageologicallyyoungland.
WediscoveractiveGeysirs,explorevulcanosandblacklavadeserts,ruggedcanyons,impressivewaterfallsandglaciers.
Weenjoytheoftenchanginglightwithitsarcticatmosphere,inmiddleoftheim-pressiveicelandiclandscape.
Schedule1.
DayflightwithIcelandairfromFrankfurttoKeflavik/IcelandridefromKeflavikviapeninsulaReykjanestoFludir(accomodationfor3nightsintheFarmhotelSydraLangholt,withhotpotbesidethehouse)2.
Day-ThingvellirNationalPark:Geologicallyveryinterestingbecauseofatectonicsetduetothecontinentaldrift.
TheimpressiveNationalParkisahistoricallyveryimportantplace,aswecanfindtherootsoftheIcelandicdemocracyhere.
-AreaofGeysir:oneofthehightemperatureareasofthecountry.
Allthehotspringsintheworldarenamedlikethe"Geysir",whichistobefoundinthisarea.
Wewillalsodiscoverhis"littlebrother""Strokkur"witheruptionsevery10minutes:20metershigharethehotwaterfontains-averybeautifulspectacle!
Gullfoss:TheGoldenWaterfall.
Manypeoplethink,it'sthemostbeautifullwaterfallinIceland.
3.
DayANNULARSOLARECLIPSE:04.
08.
am-Háifoss:wonderfulwaterfall,122mhigh(!
!
)inafantasticcanyon-Hékla:oneofthemostactivevulcanosofIceland(lasteruption02/2000).
Blackdesertsoflavasand,youngandruggedlavafieldswithoutvegetationarefascinatingeverybody.
4.
Day-Seljalandsfoss:Waterfallatthesouthcoast,wherewecanwalkbe-hind.
Thisisareallyunnusualfeeling-Skogafoss:Impressivewaterfallwithahightof60m.
lateafter-SunsetthroughcloudsimagesFrom:KlipsiTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Mon,13Jan200306:23:02afterourrecentdiscussionaboutthepossibility,undercertainconditions,toseetheSunthroughcloudswithSony'snightshotfeature,IcameacrosstheimagesIhadpostedlongago.
seehttp://eclipse.
span.
ch/20mar99.
htmitmaybeworthatryinIcelandorScotlandifcloudsspoiltheparty.
Olivier"Klipsi"Staigernoon:Reykjavik.
Therestofthedayisfreeforownexplorations.
Pubs,Cafés,Culture,etc…accomodationinHotelGardur,Reykjavik5.
Day-ridetoKeflavikairport,FlighttoFrankfurtThistripwillbeaccompaniedbyGernotMeiser&PascaleDemyPascale&Gernot:twoverynicespecialistsinsuneclipsesandastronomicalphotography.
Inpreparationforthetotalsuneclipsein1999GernotwasofteninterviewpartneratthemostfamousGermanTV-newslikeTagesschau,heutejournal,Tagesthemenetc.
TheyalsogivelecturesatUniversitiesandobservatories.
MoreovertheymadeTVandmovieproductions.
TheynormallyonlyspendlittletimeinGermany,theyaremostelyonexpeditionsallovertheworldtodis-coverthe"Darkness".
Price&benefitsMinimum:15persons///Maximum:20personsPrice:1180,00perpersonindoubleroomsSingleroomadditionalcharge:96perperson.
(Singleroomsareonlyavail-ableinacertainquantityandaregivenoutintheorderofbookingdates.
)Included-flightwithIcelandairFrankfurt/Keflavik,andretour-4nightsaccomodationindoubleroomswithoutprivatefacilities-demi-pension(richbreakfastanddiner,exceptlastdayinReykjavikbecauseeveningfreeforownactivities)-roundtripinanicelandiccoach-specialguides:PascaleDemy&GernotMeiser-leadingtourguides:AntoniaHüningand/orMichaelArnoldNotIncludedAirporttax(atpresentabout43),extratripslikehorseriding,snowmobileridingetc.
Pleasedon'tforgettotakealong:bathingclothes,towels,slippers!
!
!
contact:Ice-zeitMichaelArnold&AntoniaHüningSchorrmühlstrasse25D-95349ThurnauTel.
+49(0)9228-99139Fax+49(0)9228-5446michael@ice-zeit.
deantonia@ice-zeit.
deFrom:EvanZuckerIwasstationedinIcelandfor13monthswiththeU.
S.
AirForcefrom1984-85,andsoIknowhowbeautifultheislandis.
Ofcourse,it'snotknownforitsclearweather,butevenifit'scloudytherearealotofuniqueattractionstoseethere.
SomeofmyfellowpilotsandIcircumnavigatedtheislandbycarontheweekendofthesummersolstice,whichiseasiersaidthandonebe-cause,atleastatthattime,noneoftheinter-cityroadsinthecountrywerepavedoutsideoftheReykjavikarea.
Forthoseofyouwhomayhavebeenconfused,"Island"istheIcelandicwordforIceland.
That'swhyIcelandiccardshaveanISdecalandthefighterjetsthatwerestationedtherehadanIStailflash.
--EVANASE2003Page53Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERASE2003Trip-Iceland-UraniaFrom:hilde&wernerTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Wed,15Jan200320:05:38Urania,thepublicobservatoryofAntwerp,announcesa2-weekstriptoIcelandtoobservetheannulareclipsof31Mai2003,from29/05/03untill12/06/03.
WewillobservetheeclipsfromtheMyvatnregion,inthenorthernpartofIceland,andwillthencontinueforanexplorationofthegeologicalhighlightsoftheisland,followingmainlytheRingRoad,endingourtourinReykjavik.
Amoredetaileddescriptionofthistrip(inDutch)canbefoundonhttp://www.
urania.
be/php-txt/dynpage/ijsland.
php.
UpdatestoNASAWebSiteforASE2003From:FredEspenakTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Mon,27Jan200316:16:31UpdatestoNASAWebSiteforASE2003I'vejustaddedsomenewmaterialtotheNASAwebsiteontheAnnularSolarEclipseof2003May31.
Newmaterialincludes:1)Section's1.
01through1.
08fromtheNASAbulletin"AnnularandTotalSolarEclipsesof2003"(http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003.
html#text)2)Figure1.
7:LunarLimbProfilefortheEclipse(http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003gif/ASE2003-7b.
GIF)3)LocalCircumstancesEclipseCalculatorfortheeclipse.
Thisallowsyoutocalculatethecircumstancesforanygeo-graphiclocationanditincludestheeffectsofthelunarlimbprofile.
SpecialthankstoChrisO'ByrneformakingthisJavaapplicationavailable.
(http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003txt/ASE2003-calc.
html)4)ThecompleteNASApublicationTP2002-211618"AnnularandTotalSolarEclipsesof2003"isnowavailableasanPDFfileof2.
4MB.
(http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/SEpubs/TP211618.
html)Thewebsitealsoincludeshighandlowresolutioneclipsepathmaps,tablesofBesselianelements,geographiccoordi-natesofthepathofantumbralshadow,physicalephemerisoftheantumbra,topocentriclimbprofilecorrections,andlocalcircumstancesforseveralhundredcities.
MostofthesetablesaretakendirectlyoutoftheNASA2003eclipsepub-lication.
Theaddressofthe2003AnnularSolarEclipsewebsiteis:http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003.
htmlInthecomingweeks,Iwilladdweatherprospectsandandotherrelevantdata.
Pleasecontactmeaboutanytypos,correctionsorsuggestions.
I'dalsoliketothankMichaelGillforkindlyreviewingthesomeofthenewmaterialbeforemakingitpublic.
-FredEspenakASE2003Page54Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERInfowantedontripstosee2003totaleclipseFrom:SheridanWilliamsTo:SOLARECLIP-SES@AULA.
COMDate:Sat,01Feb200316:04:13WouldreaderspleasesendAlfredBurnsinfoontripstoseethe2003totaleclipse.
Sendthemto:albert.
burns@btinternet.
comFrom:"AlbertBurns"To:Ihaveseenthelastthreeeclipsesandaminterestedinthe2003eclipseinAntartica.
AnyinformationabouttripsA.
burnsWeatherProspectsaddedtoNASAASE2003websiteFrom:FredEspenakTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Wed,29I'vejustaddedweatherprospectsinformationtotheNASAwebsitefortheAnnularSolarEclipseof2003May31.
Newmaterialincludes:1)Section's1.
09through1.
14fromtheNASAbulletin"AnnularandTotalSolarEclipsesof2003"(http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003.
html#weather)2)Table1.
16:WeatherStatisticsforthe2003AnnularEclipse(http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003tab/ASE2003-Tab16.
html)3)KeytoTable1.
16(http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003tab/ASE2003-Key16.
html)4)Errataforthe2003NASABulletin(http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/SEpubs/TP211618errata.
html)Thewebsitealsoincludeshighandlowresolutioneclipsepathmaps,tablesofBesselianelements,geographiccoordinatesofthepathofantumbralshadow,physicalephemerisoftheantumbra,topo-centriclimbprofilecorrections,andlocalcircum-stancesforseveralhundredcities.
MostofthesetablesaretakendirectlyoutoftheNASA2003eclipsepublication.
Theaddressofthe2003AnnularSolarEclipsewebsiteis:http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/ASE2003/ASE2003.
htmlPleasecontactmeaboutanytypos,correctionsorsuggestions.
I'dalsoliketothankMichaelGillforkindlyreviewingthesomeofthenewmaterialbeforemakingitpub-lic.
-FredEspenakASE2003Page55Volume8,Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERNEW2003ECLIPSEEXPEDITION!
From:Vic&JenWinter-ICSTARSAs-tronomyTo:SOLARECLIP-SES@AULA.
COMDate:Fri,10Jan200319:22:28It'swithgreatprideandexcitementthatwemakethefirstpublicannouncementofaNEWexpeditionforthe2003TotalSolarEclipse.
LANDOFTHEMIDNIGHTECLIPSE!
Novolazarevskaya-Ant-arcticaDuetorecenttreatiessignedinlate2002,Antarcticawill,forthefirsttimeallowtourismtotheRussianScienceStation,Novolaza-revskaya.
Perthistreaty,theoperationscorporation,ALCIwhogainedattentionaftercoordinatingtherescueeffortofice-boundfishermenin2002;willleadoperationstothebase.
ObservingwillbefromthegroundattheNovosciencestation.
6-hour(pressurized)flightwilldepartfromCapeTowndirectlytoNovo.
Theexpeditionwillrun11days,asitisnecessarytoarriveseveraldaysinadvanceofthescheduledflighttobepreparedforinclementweather.
Itisabitshorterandlessexpensivethansomeotherexpe-ditions.
WeatheratNovo/Maitriisreservedlyreportedbetween44%and55%chanceofclearskies.
TheEclipsewillbetotaljust16minutesafterlocalmidnight.
Theeclipsegeometrywillbeveryunusual,withthesunmovingintheSouthfromwesttoeast,loweringtonearlythelowestpointintheskyatapprox.
12:16am.
Justabovethehorizon,theeclipseistotalforanestimated1:20.
Then,aftertotalityispast,thesunwillriseagainasitreaches4thcontact.
Furtherinformationconcerningitinerary,detailsandtermscanbefoundat:http://www.
icstars.
com/AstronomicalTours/Antarctica2/Index.
htmlInformationabouttheNovostationandtheaircraftcanbefoundat:http://www.
icstars.
com/AstronomicalTours/Antarctica2/Novo.
htmlAnyonewithfurtherquestionscancontactmedirectlyorrequestinformationfromthewebsite.
ClearSkies,JenWinter-OwnerFrom:MarkAlsipWow.
Myfavoritetourcompanydoesitagain.
Incredible.
TSE2003AntarcticaFlight2003From:klipsi@bluewin.
chTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Fri,03Jan200314:46:16Iseethattherearegreatlyreducedpricesonseatsnexttowindow.
Ihighlyrecommendthem.
Theyareveryaffordableandyouwillseetheeclipse,guaranteed.
IfIwouldgoforthatflight,Iwoulddefinatelytakeabusinessclassseatnexttothewindow,orevenfirstclass,butstillnexttothewindow.
IflewaB747-400onupperdeck(QF64)lastNovemberandknowwhattheylooklike.
Ifyouareonatightbudget,Irecommendyoutaketheseatnexttowindow,atreducedcost,andusethesavedmoneyforabottleofgreatChampagneorbetterevenabottleofPenfoldsGrange,bestwineofAustraliaandamongthebestintheworld!
-)KlipsiFrom:MarkAlsipThepricingtexthasbeenpostedbyothers,soIwon'trepeatit.
Justacommentaboutthemnotansweringyouremail,Jo-erg.
.
.
Iexchangedseveralemailswiththemtoclarifytheseatingarrangmentsandthoughtheresponseswerealittleslowincom-ing,Ifelttheywereverywellthought-outrepliesandsomebodyontheotherendwasobviouslypayingalotofattentiontomyquestionsandconcerns.
Unfortunately,Ididn'tfeeltheseatingarrangementswerereallygoingtoworkoutforwhatIwaslookingfor,soIhadtopassonthisone.
However,thepeopledidseemverydedicatedtoansweringmyquestions,soI'dencourageyoutoemailthemagainifyouhaveconcerns.
Thereplieswereslowincoming,buttheydidcome!
--MarkFrom:DaveBalch,TheStay-at-HomeCEOIjustreceivedmyconfirmationforthatflightyesterday.
I'mnotsurewhatmyplanswillbe,butputmeonthelistandI'lltrytomakeit!
DaveFrom:KCStarguy@aol.
comJustcurious,isthereawebsitewithinfoaboutcostanditinerarywhatisthecostwhywouldanyonebookachaironthenoneclipsewindowFrom:KlipsiCarterRobertsjustdidpostalongmessagewithfulldetail.
DidyounotreceiveitIcanresendittoyouifneeded.
Hereisinshort:TotalEclipseFlight23-24November2003ReducedpricesUSDEclipseFirstClass$6,000EclipseBusinessClass$5,500EclipseBusinessClassrestrictedviewing(16A&30A)$5,000EclipseBusinessrowoftwo$7,000REDUCEDEclipseBusinessrestrictedviewingrowoftwo$6,300REDUCEDEclipseBusinessClassadjacenttowindowseat$2,200REDUCEDEclipseBusinessadjacenttoWindowseat(restrictedview)$1,600EclipsePremiumEconomyWindow$4,000EclipseEconomyadjacenttoPremiumwindowseat$1,200REDUCEDEclipsePremiumEconomyaisleseat$800REDUCEDEclipsePremiumEconomyrowofthree$5,500REDUCEDEclipsePremiumrowsoftwo(70-73)$5,200REDUCEDEclipseStandardWindow(overornearwing)$3,500EclipseStandardAdjacenttoWindowseat(overornearwing)$820EclipseStandardAisleseatsamerow(overornearwing)$650(Continuedonpage57)TSE2003Page56Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTEREclipseStandardcompleterow$4,500REDUCED>whywouldanyonebookachaironthenoneclipsewindowbecausetheflightisalso,andmainly,oneoftheirnormalAntarcticflights.
YouusuallytakethatflighttoseeAntarctica.
MostoftimestheydoitfromMelbourneorSydney.
Classic12hourstour,4hoursdown,4hoursAntarctica,4hoursback.
Theeclipseisbonus.
DoingthatflightoutofPerthallowsthemtoreachthepathoftotalitysafely.
KlipsiFrom:GeoffKlipsi-Ifyouboughtaseatnexttothewindow,youbasicallywouldn'thaveanyrighttolookthroughthewindow.
Who-everboughtthewindowseatwouldhavefullandunrestrictedaccesstoit,iftheysodesire.
Iftheybuybusinessclasswin-dowseat,theyareentitledtousethetwowindowsalltothemselves.
Iftheyletyouuseawindow,thatsnice,buttheydefi-natelydon'thaveto.
--GeoffFrom:KlipsifromCroydontravel'smessage:Acameramountedontheflightdeckwillshowtakeoffandlanding,theviewofAntarcticaandoftheEclipseonscreensthroughouttheaircraft.
thisiswhatIcallaninterestingIntranet;-)nowTHATisquestion:willtheydoalivebroadcast/webcastviasatelliteitismostlikelyawideanglecamera.
DoesitallowzoomingsomewhattotheeclipsedSunEvenifnot,broadcastingwideangleviewoftheeclipsedskyoverAntarcticashouldbespectacular.
KlipsiFrom:GlennSchneiderAll,TherehasbeenarecentsurgeofSEMLemailsregardingtheCROYDON2003eclipseflight.
Iwishtosay/addacoupleofthings.
IamworkingwithQANTASandCROYDONtodefinetheeclipseinterceptitself,andveryhappilyIwillbeontheflightdeckassistingwiththenavigationfortheeclipse.
ThisfreeduptheseatIhadbooked,soonemorewindowshouldbeavailable-ifitisnotgonealready.
Thatsaid,Iamworkingstrictlyonthetechnicalaspectsoftheeclipseportionoftheflight,andIhavenocommercialaffiliationwithCroydontravel(thoughIbelieveIhavedevelopedaverygoodworking/consultativerelationwiththem)-soanyquestionsregardingbookings,costs,etc.
shouldgotoPhilAskerorGayleBrownatCroydon.
(PatP:Pleaseforgiveme,thisisNOTintendedasacommercialendorsement-butIknowinterestisrunninghigh).
IunderstandfrommylastcorrespondencewithPhilAskerthatsubsidewindowseatsaregoingfast.
Thefinaldetailsoftheeclipseintercepthavenotyetbeenworkedout.
IhaveameetingplannedwithCpt.
JohnDennis(whowillbepilotingtheflight)inMarchtoironoutmanydetails.
However,thetwovariantsunderstudyaresummarizedat:http://nicmosis.
as.
arizona.
edu:8000/ECLIPSE_WEB/ECLIPSE_03/CROYDON_ECLIPSE.
htmlPleasenotethisispreliminaryandsubjecttoalteration-butshouldgiveyouthebasicidea.
Windowsharing:Crydonischargingasignificantpremiumforexclusiveuseofthesun-sidewindowseatsbyeclipseviewers.
DoNOTcountonbookinganadjacentseatandseeingtheeclipse,unlessyouarrangewitha"partner"toshare.
Bizclassseatshavetwoor3windows.
OntheQANTASB747-400itisquitepossibleforonepersontouseaBizclasswindowseatedandoneonthefloorinfrontoftheseatwithasecond(orthirdwindows).
ContactPhilabout2vs3windowbiz(orfirst)classseats.
Sharingarow(notseat)inthismannermaybeascosteffectiveasacoachwindow/rowusedexclusively.
THISISMYOPINIONandnotastatementfromCroydon.
VerysoonPhilwillbesendingoutaclarification/revisionontheexclusiveuseofsun-sidewindowsforeclipseviewers.
Hehasal-lowedmeapreviewofthat,andIthinkallwillfinsitverycomforting,butImustdefertohimtopresentit.
Iwillbeonworkrelatedtravel,andtiedupwithnon-eclipseworkthrough24January,soanyrepliesonoroffSEMLmaygounan-(Continuedonpage58)TSE2003Page57Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERsweredforafewweeks.
ForthatIapologizeinadvance.
Sincerely,GlennSchneiderFrom:MichaelGill>CroydonTravel'swebsitehasapageaboutthisflight.
Gotohttp://www.
antarcticaflights.
com.
auandclickthe"JUSTRELEASED-SOLARECLIPSEFLIGHT24NOV2003"link.
I'drecommendthatparticipantsbookmarkthepageforfutureupdates.
Note,thatmaximumeclipseoccursat22:49UTonNovember23,butPerth(fromwheretheflightdeparts)is8hoursaheadofUT.
MichaelGillFrom:MichaelGillSorrytosoundsoselfishhere,butthepersonintheseatnexttomeisguaranteedNOTtoseetheeclipse.
Weeclipse-chasersarepayingasubstantialpremiumfortheexclusiveuseofthewindowsduringtheeclipseintercept.
Inreturn,thepersonnexttomecanhave100%oftheviewingtimeoverAntarcticaasIhavezerointerestinthat.
Iwouldonlyrecommendthesenon-windowseatstospousesorfriendsofeclipse-chaserswhoarewillingtoshareortoAnt-arcticabuffs.
PeopleturningupatPerthairporthopingthattheymightlookovertheshoulderofaneclipse-chaserduringtotalitymayfindthemselvesinforadisappointment.
Severalpeoplewhohavebookedplacesonthisflightfeelthesamewayasme.
MichaelGillFrom:MarkAlsipIwouldmaketheoppositeguarantee:AnyonebookingamiddleseatnexttoaneclipsechaserwillbeguaranteedtoNOTseetheeclipse.
It'snotaquestionofselfishness--Ican'tthinkofanotherhobbywheresharingthejoyissoprevalent--butofpracticality.
We'renottalkingaboutsharingthesky,butasmallwindow.
Averyexpensivesmallwindow.
Andaveryshorttotality.
Ididn'tbookthistripoutoffearoftheconflictthatwouldariseifthepersonsittinginthemiddleseathadshownupwithanyexpec-tationofseeingtheeclipse.
Theorganizeremailedmetosaypeoplewith"exclusive"windowseataccesswouldonlybeexpectedtoshareduringthesight-seeingportionoftheflight.
"exclusive"and"share"aremutuallyexclusive.
Havingbeenstuckinamiddleseatonmanycommercialflights,Iknowfromexperiencethatsight-seeingisnexttoimpossiblefromthatposition.
True,thesight-seeingportionissupposedtobe1or2hours,plentyoftimetoshare*beforetotality*.
Butwhatifit'scloudyWhatiftheflightisdelayedItriedtoshareaseatduringanoverflightofGreenlandafewyearsago,andasfarasphotog-raphyandsightseeingwent,itwasadisaster--whentheclouds*did*break,Iwasalwayslookingatsomebody'sback,listeningtothemsay"OOOH!
Howbeautiful.
.
.
"From:gsims@iprimus.
com.
auIagree,It'snotbeingselfish.
Ifyoupayforawindow,yougetone!
Ifyoupay1/4thepriceforanisle,yougetanisle.
--GeoffFrom:MatthewPoulton(Continuedonpage59)TSE2003Page58Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERIhavebeenfollowingcommentsregardingtheAntarcticeclipseflightwithinterest,asIwouldverymuchliketobeonthepassengerlistcomeNovember.
However,giventhatIamstillpayingoffPhDdebts,theminimumpricewindowseatatUS3500isstillalittleabovemybudget.
WhilstIconcurwithpreviouscommentsthatthosepayingthepremiumforwindowseatsshouldbeentitledtoexclusiveuseofthatwindow,(Ienvisageimprovisedcurtainstoblockoutunwantedcabinlight-ing,cameraflashes,nosyneighboursetc)Ibelievethatforthosepassengerswithlittleornophotographicequipment,itisperfectlypossiblefortwopeopletoshareonewindow.
Indeed,onregularflightswhilstflyingovermountainrangesetc,Ihaveoftenenjoyedviews(comfortably!
)togetherwithmyflyingneighbour.
Igatherthatallthesun-sidewindowseatshavenowbeensoldandthatashortwaitinglistexists.
Iamconsideringjoiningthislistforablockof2or3seats,assumingthatIcanfindsomeonewillingtoenterintoa50/50window/costsharingagree-ment.
WhilstIrealisethatthemajorityofpeoplegoingfromthislistwillhaveplentyofequipmentandbarelyenoughroomforthemselvestoview,Iwouldbeinterestedtohearfromanyoneelsewhowouldbeinterestedineconomisingalittlebysharingawindow–particularlyiftheyhavealreadymadeareservation.
Oneseparatepoint:ForthosestartingfromSydney,itwouldbeadvisabletobookaccommodationforthedaysleadinguptotheflight,assoonaspossible,asthefinaloftherugbyworldcupisbeingheldinthecityonSaturday22ndNovemberandbedsmaybeatapremium(justlikeanyothereclipsethen!
)Regards,MatthewPoultonFrom:Jean-LucL.
J.
DIGHAYEIbookedtwofirstclassseatsbyCroydononbehalfoftheEurAstroAssociation.
So,wearelikelytomeetinSydneyjustbeforewegofortheeclipse.
Thankyoufortheinvitation-andstayintouchwithme.
Jean-Luchttp://www.
eurastro.
deTSE2003Page59Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTER2003AntarcticaTSESiteInspectionFrom:Vic&JenWinter-ICSTARSAstronomyTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Mon,20Jan200301:12:22OnFebruary2,2003IdepartformysiteinspectionoftheNovostationinAntarcticafortheTSEinNovember.
Thisiswherewewillbeflyingouraircraftandfromwhereournewground-basedteamwillobserve.
Iwillconductaseriesoflightsurveysandtests.
Iwillbephotographingtheenvironmentandfacilities,andmakingmorepreciseGPScoordinatemeasurementsofvariousobservationsites.
WhileI'mthereIalsohopetospeakwiththestaffatthesciencestationtolearnwhattheyknowabouttheirownweatherviadatacollection.
Ishouldbeabletogetafirmanswerontheviabilityofaback-upflightplantoobservefromtheairwithourpressurizedplanes.
Additionally,Iwillperformasmallnumberofbattery-lifetestsandfunctiontestsforanumberofcommoncameras.
IwilltakeourNikonD-100,anN90S,aSonycamcorder,alate-modelP/IIIHPlap-top.
Imayperformsomeotherbattery-lifetests,butwilldeterminethoseincomingweeks,andwhenIdecidehowmuchweightIhavecompiled.
Ialsohopetolearnwhatelectricalpowercapabilitiesarepresent,andperhapsdiscernirridiumphonecoverageatthebase.
AsmytimeatNovolasarevskayawillincludesometimewiththesunbelowthehorizon,Iamnaturally,hopingfortherarechancetoglimpseAuroraAustralisfrom70degreessouth.
Onceagain,Iamaskingifanylistmemberhasanyspecialrequests.
Ifyouhaveanynon-intrusivetestsyouwouldlikemetoconductorinformationyouwouldlikemetogather,pleaseletmeknowsoIcantrytohelp.
Also,asImaybetheonlyrepresentativefromourcommunitytoperformoneoftheseinspectionsinAntarctica-Imaybeouronlyvoiceinexpressingourcollectivewishesinplanning.
Iwouldliketoberepresentativeofthepreferencesandneedsofabroadrangeofumbraphiles.
IhopeyouwillallshareyourthoughtsandideaswithmebeforeImakethisjourneyonyourbehalf.
Ileavepre-dawnonFebruary2nd.
Detailsoftheplannedexpeditionsofarcanbefoundat:http://www.
icstars.
com/AstronomicalTours/Antarctica2/Index.
htmlwithbaseinformationat:http://www.
icstars.
com/AstronomicalTours/Antarctica2/Novo.
htmlClearSkies,JenWinter-Owner,ICSTARSAstronomy&AstronomicalTours2005-ClosetoislandsFrom:GeoffTo:SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COMDate:Sat,04Jan200308:59:59Hithere,IhavebeenlookingatEmapwin,anditappearsthatthetotalpartoftheeclipsedoespassVERYclosetoland.
At23.
93°S,130.
73°WistheOenoIsland-partofthePitcairnIslands,andliesalmostexactlyonthesouthernlimitoftotality(noneoftheislandappearstoliewithinthepaththough).
FromthesmallamountofresearchIdidinabout10minsonthePitcairnislands(haveingnopriorknowledgeofthem),itappearstheyareagroupoftiny,virtuallyunpopulatedtropicalis-lands(thePitcairnIslanditself,notfarfromOeno,hasapopulationof50).
PermissionbytheNewZealandgovernmentisrequiredtogotoboththeseislands,andarrangementshavetobemadetostaywithlocals.
ApprentlyOenoIslandisa"holidaydestination"forthelocalswholiveonthePitcairnIsland.
Asfarastourismgo,itseemsasthoughitispossibletogetthere,butfarfromeasy.
Iamnotsureifthisinformationisofanyusetoanyone,howeverIthoughtIwouldletyouknow.
Thecentrelinewouldbearound12km(Ithink)fromtheOenoisland,toreceiveadurationofabout30s.
--GeoffFrom:JeanMeeusConcerningthemailofGeoff:RecentlyIreceivedfromDanielCrussaire(aFrenchastronomer)hismapoftheeclipsetracknearOeno.
Accordingtothatmap(whichIdidn'tcheck),thepathoftotalityjustmissesOeno.
Ifsomebodyisinterested,Icansendhimthatmap.
Itisa"jpg"file,size116KB.
JeanMeeusFrom:GeoffYesitdoesmissOeno,butasIsaid,onlyJUST.
From:GlennSchneiderIndeed,thealtitudeoftheSunistoohigh.
Ashipwilldefinatelybeinorderfor2005.
GlennSchneiderFrom:Klipsiin1996whenIwasontheEasterIslandforthepartialsolareclipse,IsawasubmarineoftheChileanNavy.
tookseveralphotos,oneispostedhere:http://eclipse.
span.
ch/submarine.
jpgsoIwasthinking:hasanybodyeverchasedtoaneclipsezoneinasubCouldbegreatwiththeAugust1st2008TSE,forexample,intheArctic.
KlipsiFrom:GlennSchneiderIhadlookedintoOneosometimeago,alongwithMichaelGill.
Jeanis,ofcourse,quitecorrect.
Oneoisentirelyoutofthepathoftotality,evenontheNWend.
Also,beforeanyoneelsechasesadeadend"Sand"or"Sandy"island,asitappearsonsome"maps"isactuallypartofOneo,andalsofallsoutofthepathoftotality.
GlennSchneiderFrom:PeterTiedtThereisanexcellentmappntheBDLsite.
http://www.
bdl.
fr/ephem/eclipses/soleil/avril2005_oeno.
jpgPeterTiedtFrom:Vic&JenWinter-ICSTARSAstronomyWejustreferencedthecoordinatesoftheislandofOenoandthevicinityinthelatestversionofWinOccult.
ThisisthesoftwaretheLunar-Occultationsfolksusetopredictbrightstarandasteroidoccultationtimings,sothelunarlimbprofileinformationisex-(Continuedonpage61)HIBRYDE2005Page60Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERtremelyaccurate.
Asthetimingsaresocrucial,wethoughtitwouldbethemostaccuratesoftwareforhoninginonaWill-coxpoint.
So,whatwe'vefoundisthat:Oenooccupies130deg44'-130deg47'W23deg54'50"-23deg57'SOenoisoutsideoftherangeoftotalitybyperhaps2miles.
CalculationsinWinOccultshowthattheeclipsefromseveral.
5degreevariationsineachdirectionofthepointofmaximumwillofferadurationoftotalityrangingapproximately30-31seconds.
30-31secondsWow!
ThepointatwhichthesoftwarelocatedtobethecentermostLong/Latis:13051.
00W2350.
00SFirstcontact:18:22:04Secondcontact:19:47:18Thirdcontact:19:47:49Fourthcontact:21:18:36MagnitudeofMaximumEclipse:1.
006AltitudeatMaximumeclipse:56degreesDistancefromCenterofEclipse:.
000369ShadowRadiusL2=-.
001586Shadowmovementn=+.
366928IwouldliketopointoutthatothermainstreamsoftwarewithEclipseFinderfeaturesthatdoesn'tincludelunar-limbprofiledataactuallyshowedthisL/Ltobeoutsidethepathoftotality.
Ithinkifweallpitch-in,wecouldbuildaverylongpieroutfromOenoislandtostandonthedockofthebay.
Wehaveover2yearstodoit,rightClearSkies,jenFrom:JosephCaliSorryJen,Iamnotsurewhatthecurrentsituationisre-commercialflightsbutIcantellyouwhatfacilitiesandinfrastruc-tureisthere.
YoucanflytotheGalapagosIslands.
I'vediditwhenIvisitedtheGalapagosIslandsinDec1994,IflewtherefromEquador.
TheflightdepartedQuito,setdowninGuayaquiltopickup/setdownpassengersthencontinuedontoGala-pagos.
TherearesizeableairportsonSanCristobalandSantaCruzislands.
Theairstripsarecapableoflandingpassengerjets.
Ithinkwewereina727.
>FromSanCristobal,wetransferedtoourcharterboat.
A60ft5cabin10berthyacht.
Thecruiseshipsmaywellhavecomefromthemainland.
Icouldn'ttell.
Theycancertainlyload/unloadpassengersontheislandsandtheairportswerequitenewandwouldstillbethereevenifflightsarenotgoingtherenow.
Anytravelagentcouldtellyouinaflash.
TheairlinewastheEquadornationalcarrierSaeta.
Onethingthatthepeopleorganisingcruisesmightconsider.
Youwouldn'twanttowasteyourtimevisitingthegalapagosislandsinthoselargeships.
ThecruiseshippassengersIspoketospentmostoftheirweekeitherwaitingtogetaridetotheislandorwaitingonshorefortheirrideback.
PeopleIspoketowerenothappyafterwecomparednotesabouthowmuchwildlifeviewingtimeweeachhadespeciallysincewepaid1/4whattheypaid.
Mindyouwemissedoutonthefancydressballanddidn'tgettodressupaspenguinsorboobeys.
Insteadwemadedowithcocktailsonthedeckeacheveningandlobsterandfishmealsfreshlycaughteachmorningbyourcrewand6-9hrsperdayofviewing/snorkelling.
Ifthebigcruisedoesn'tworkout,smallerindependentgroupscouldflytoGalapagosandchartersmallerboatstogotothepathpro-vidingtheyachtshavesufficientfuelrange.
The60ftyachtIwasonwouldnotmakeaverystableplatformfortelescopicviewingbutfinefornakedeyehandheldbinos.
JoeCali(Continuedonpage62)HIBRYDE2005Page61Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERFrom:MichaelGillThisisingoodagreementwiththefigurespostedbyFredonthefollowingwebpage:http://sunearth.
gsfc.
nasa.
gov/eclipse/SEpath/SEpath2001/SE2005Apr08H.
html(see19:48UT)MichaelGillFrom:PeterTiedtIthinkthereisaboobooonthepartoftheBDL.
.
.
PerhapssomeoneshouldtellthemPeterTiedtFrom:JohnLX200@aol.
comTwolastthoughtsaboutpinningdowneclipselimits.
Mostimportantly,atmosphericrefraction,andasecondconsideration,beadbrightness.
I'lldealwithbeadbrightnessfirst.
Certainlythefolksusingdetailedlimbcorrectionsareontherighttrack,andtheireffortstodatewillmakeiteasyforthemtocalculatebeadbrightnessatland'send.
Ifbychancethefull3km"missdistance"isjustaV-shapedvalleytravelingtangentiallyacrossthesun'sedge,thenthereisabout1squarearcsecofexposedphotosphere.
Aboutthesameas2secondsaftertrue3rdcontactona"single-beadcontact"centerline.
Orifbychanceit'sasmoothasabilliardball,thenit'salargerareaofphotosphere,andaboutthesameas2secondsaftertrue3rdcontactonan"arccontact"centerline.
Isuspectthisisnottrue,orthedifferencebetweenthegenerallibrationsolu-tionandtheoccultation-detailsolutionwouldnotbesosignificant.
Thenwehavetoquibbleabouthowlongittakesthenakedeyetodetect3rdcontactineachofthosecircumstancesanyway.
No,it'snotinstantaneous!
Myownpersonalmethodofestimatingdetectionof3rdcontactisasfollows:1.
Therearealreadyareasofdifferentbrightnessindifferentpartsoftheinnercorona,etc.
2.
Theinnermostcoronaisquitebright.
3.
At3rdcontact,theeyeisalreadydistractedbyprominencesandchromosphereappearing.
4.
Naked-eyeresolutionisapproximatelyequivalenttoonesquarearcminutepixels,ofarea3600arcsec**2.
In10xbinocu-lars,itwouldbe36arcsec**2.
5.
Enoughisgoingonthatthe"beadpixel"mustreach4xtheaveragebrightnessofthedozensofneighboring"innercorona/chromosphere"pixels"fordetectionofcontact.
Itmustthenreachabrightnessequaltothewholecorona(approximately1/10,000thebrightness,or10magnitudesdimmerthanthewholesun)beforebeginningtospoilthecoronalview,andmid-wayin(logarithmic)magnitudebetweentotalityandsunbeforebeinghopelesslygone.
6.
I'destimatetheinnermostcoronatohave1/1000theper-areabrightnessofthephotosphere,andtheaveragecoronalbrightness"ifallcoronallightwereequallyspreadoveranareaequaltothesun"of1/10,000photosphere.
Ifthe"totalmagnitude"ofaneclipseis10magnitudesdimmerthanthesun,thenthisiscorrect,makingitalsoabout3magnitudes(orabout20x)brighterthanafullmoon.
7.
4x3600/1000gives14squarearcsecofphotosphereasthethresholdofnaked-eyedetectionand0.
14squarearcsecfor10xbin-oculars.
Soifthebeadvalley(s)approach2or3kmdeep,itseemsquitelikelythatthiseclipsewouldbeseenastotalforafewsec-ondstothenakedeye,butasbead(s)inbinoculars.
Regardlessofwhataperturethevieweruses,thebrighteningisveryrapidafterdetection.
Butthesensethiscreates,thatthesunlight(Continuedonpage63)HIBRYDE2005Page62Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERwas"turnedon"likealightswitch,isfalse.
Themomentofdetectionvariessignificantlywithaperture,especiallyinthecaseofbeads.
Ihaveatime-synchronizedpairofcamcorderviewsofthe1999eclipseshowingthis.
Althoughthecamcor-dersandzoomlenseswereidentical,theaperturedifferencesfromdifferentzoomsettings(andperhapsunintentionallyslightlydifferentexposuregainsettings)ledtoverysignificant(multi-second)differencesincontactdetectioninaneclipsegrazezone.
Butdetectionaside,nowtothebigquestionforpurists:atomosphericrefraction.
Theonefactorwhichfewifanyeclipsegeometryprogramstakeintoaccountisatmosphericrefraction.
Despitetheusualexcuseof"theeffectisafunctionofat-mosphericconditionsatthetime,suchastemperatureandpressurevs.
altitude;andisnotsignificanthighinthesky"IJUSTDONOTSEEhowmodelingtheatmosphereasaperfectvacuumdevoidofopticalproperties,isconsideredacceptable.
Doesthelackofeclipse-dayweatherdatamakeavacuumabettersolutionthanusingareasonablesetofassumptionssuchasthe"standardatmosphere"with15degreesCatsealevel,standardtemperatureprofileassumptions,etc.
No!
Andatthetangencycontactpoints,it'soutrightscandalous,whereweknowtheanswertobeoffby60kmatsealevelundernominalatmosphericconditions.
I'venotlookedatadetailedmapofthe2005situationyet,soI'mnotsureifitwouldplacethelimitcloserorfartherawayfromland.
Buttounderscorehowimportantitcanbeincertainsituations,thinkoftwodatapoints:1.
Atmosphericrefractionunderstandardatmosphericconditionsletsyouseeanobjectonthehorizonwhichisabout0.
5degreesbelowthehorizongeometrically.
Soanobjectappearing90degreesfromthezenithisactually90.
5degreesfromit.
Thattellsmeitcanmovethelimitlinebyabout0.
5degreesoftheEarth'scircumference,about60kilometers.
2.
Iftheeclipseisatthezenith,thelimitlinemoves0kilometers.
Beforewritingoffthisisland,I'llfigureoutthemagnitudeanddirection(180degreesoppositethesun'sazimuth)ofthelimitline'sdisplacementduetostandard-atmosphererefraction.
Thenifitlooksgood,itcouldberefinedwithtypicalweatherforthedate/location.
Ifyou'relookingouttoseaattheeclipse,andthe"zoneoftotality"isinthesamedirection,it'sgoodnews:refractionletsyouseewhatsomeoneoffshorewouldseeinavacuum.
Ifyou'relookingbackovertheisland,withtotalitybehindyou,it'sbadnews.
Itwouldseemtobeano-brainertodothisonefromaship.
Buttimewilltellwhetheranyshipswillgotoit.
Ifonedoes,thenis30secondsoftotalitybetterthanagrazeat(orevenjustbeyond)thelimitonfirmland,combinedwiththechallengetoperfectlypredictwhatwillbeseenfromthereI'dlovetoadda"beyondthetheoreticallimit"TSEtomycollection,togowithmy1999"belowthehorizon"TSE.
Regards,JohnHopperFrom:RobertBSlobinsJohn:30seconds'totalityseemslikeawide-enoughtrack.
Tostudytheflashspectrum,theislandlookstobegoodenough.
Whatdoyouthinkcheers/rbsFrom:Rybrks1@cs.
comDearJohn;IenjoyedyourdetaileddescriptionofbrightnessrelativetoC2orC3.
Ihadaskedaquestionafewweeksagoaboutbrightness.
InitIsuggestedthatthisinitialbrightnessmightbeduetolightbeingre-flectedbackofftherelativelydarkhydrogengasofprominencesandchromospherefromtheverybrightphotosphere(hidden).
IhappentohaveEspenak'sbook,"Totality",infrontofmerightnowandthephotoonthecoverillustratesthisnicely.
Lookatthe(Continuedonpage64)HIBRYDE2005Page63Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERwhitelightbeingreflectedoffthebaseoftheprominencesandbaseofthechromosphere.
WhatdoyouthinkIamsendingacopyofthisdirecttoFredEspenakincasehehasnotesaboutfilmprocessingoranyotherartifactsregardingthatparticu-larphotothatmightrendermyquestionineffectual.
Itdoesnotseemtobecorona,nordoesitwhenIobserveaneclipse.
Herewasmyquery:Subj:WhysobrightDate:12/16/0212:44:08AMCentralStandardTimeFrom:Rybrks1Everytimeatotalsolareclipsebegins(C2),Iamamazedathowbrightatfirsttheveryinnerareaappears.
(Thisisafterallphotosphereiscovered,nomorebeads,nodiamonds,etc.
)Thisintensebrightnessseemstolast1or2seconds.
AnditalsoseemstooccurasecondortwobeforeC3.
IstartedwonderingaboutitafewdaysafterDec4.
CoulditbephysiologicalIalwayswearapatchonmydistanceeye.
ButthatwouldnotexplainitjustpriortoC3.
Itseemsveryapparenttomyeyes.
Anditseemsbrightesttomeatthebaseoflargeprominences.
IwasusingmynewCoro-nadoH2alphascopeduringthepartialphasesoIknewthattherewasamonsterwideprominenceatthe1o'clockspot.
Whenitwenttotalthebaseseemedextremelywhitebrighttothepointwhereitdefinitelydrownedoutthepinkoftheprominenceforafewseconds.
Ijumpedonthe100mmx25powerbinocsanditseemedtrueinthebinocstooforashorttime.
Coulditbethatthebaseoftheprominences/chromosphere(relativelydarkergas)arereflectingtheintenselybrightphotospherejustbelowOrisitjustthatthecoronaisbrighternearerthesolarlimbThebrightnessisalwayscenterednearthecontactpointandnotnearthenorthorsouthpointsoftheSunwhichoverlapawiderpartofthelimb.
Thebrightnessseemstocovermaybea30or45degreearcofsolarlimb.
IdidnoticethiseffectalsowhenIwasonly6kmfromthesouthernlimitAug1999anditseemedtorollaroundthebottom.
Iamcuriousofeveryone'sopinionsandperceptionsonthis.
Idon'tknowwhyittooksomanyyearsformetonowaskthisquestion.
Sincerely,RaymondBrooksHIBRYDE2005Page64Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERTSE2006-TurkeyFrom:JayFriedlandTo:"SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COM"Date:Thu,16Jan2003Helloall,IwasjustlookingattheNYTimesonlineandthefeatureddestinationisTurkey.
HerearetheURLs:http://www.
nytimes.
com/top/features/travel/destinations/europe/turkey/index.
htmlhttp://www.
nytimes.
com/2002/05/26/travel/FRIG.
htmlhttp://www.
nytimes.
com/2000/10/08/travel/ISTAN.
htmlNoneofthearticlesarenewbutitsnicetohavetheminoneplace-Cappadocialooksmarvelous!
-JayFrom:Alcovedbase@aol.
comHello,IfyouareplanningtogotoTurkeyforthe2006TSE,Iwouldsuggestyoutocheckoutthefollowingwebsiteformoreinfor-mationregardingeclipsepathmaps:http://newton.
physics.
metu.
edu.
tr/~aat/TSE2006/TSE2006.
htmlIwillbeobservingtheeclipsewithmywifeandlotsoffriends,eitherintheancientRomanamphitheaterofAspendos(alittlenorth-westofcenterline),http://www.
turizm.
net/cities/aspendos/http://www.
journeyturkey.
net/english/aspen.
htmlorfromManavgat(atthecenterline),thelocationofoneofthemostbeautifulwaterfallsinTurkey:http://www.
ezoptravel.
com/ezopnew/turkey/mdtrn/manavgt.
htmhttp://www.
volaretour.
com/infocenter/database/side.
htmlDefinitelywewillbeintheTurkishRiviera(http://www.
mfa.
gov.
tr/grupc/ca/caa/uu/akdeniz/riviera.
htm)wheretheweatherpros-pectslookmorepromising.
Hopetoseeyouthere!
Clearskies,HaldunI.
MenaliAmateurAstronomerBoston,MAhttp://members.
aol.
com/astroalcove/index.
htmlTSE2006March2006EclipseFrom:KatherineLowTo:"'SOLARECLIPSES@AULA.
COM'"Date:Sun,12Jan2003JustreadanarticlelastweekintheDec2002issueoftheNationalGeographicbyJohnHare,'SurvivingtheSahara'.
Itisabouta3.
5monthcamelexpeditionheisundertakingstartingatthelakeofChadendendinginornearTripoli.
Thearticleincludesadessertmapandwhatisoninterestforusisthatseveralplacesalongthisexpedition(Niger/Tripoliborder)areonthepathoftotalityofthe2006eclipse.
WhowillbegoingbycamelKrisDelcourteFrom:briansealesActuallythegangfromwww.
ecliptomaniacs.
comareplanningtogotoLibyatoviewthe2006eclipse,mainlybecausehav-ingdrivenonMadagascarroadsandsurvivedwefeelthattheSaharabycamelwouldanevenbetteradventure.
ThereisatravelagentinIrelandwhohasbeenrunningtripsintoLibyaforthelastfewyearsandthepeoplewhohavebeenonthemsayitiswellworthavisitandthepeoplearewonderfulthere.
SomeoftheSouthAfricansandSwedeswemetlastDecember4thplantomeetupwithus.
BrianSealesFrom:DavidMakepeaceCamel!
!
Haven'tchasedtheshadowonacamelyet.
Countmein.
Oh,andKlipsiwilldothis,too!
Klipsi-haven'tyoualreadymadeinquiriesaboutobservingthisTSEfromLibyaDavidMakepeaceFrom:KlipsihowaboutahotairballoonKlipsiFrom:FredBruenjesTheDakarRally(http://www.
dakar.
com/2003/us/)isgoingthroughLibya,andcrossingthe2006eclipsepathTODAY(SundayJan12th).
Stages10and11aretheonesthatcrossthe2006eclipsepath.
IntheUSA,TVcoveragewillbeontheSpeedChanneltonightat7:30pmETor9:30pmPT.
Seehttp://www.
speedtv.
comforwhentherepeatsare,ortheDakarwebsiteaboveforinfoonTVcoverageinothercountries.
It'sarealgoodchancetogetaviewofwhatthe2006eclipsepathislike.
.
.
FredBruenjeshttp://www.
bruenjes.
orgFrom:CarterRobertsTherewillnotbemanypeoplefromtheUnitedStatesgoingtoLibyafortheeclipse.
ToquotetheU.
S.
StateDepartment:"PASSPORTVALIDATION:Withouttherequisitevalidation,useofaU.
S.
passportfortravelto,in,orthroughLibyamayconsti-tuteaviolationof18U.
S.
C.
1544,andmaybepunishablebyafineand/orimprisonment.
Thecategoriesofindividualseligibleforconsiderationforaspecialpassportvalidationaresetforthin22C.
F.
R.
51.
74.
PassportvalidationrequestsforLibyacanbeforwardedinwritingtothefollowingaddress:DeputyAssistantSecretaryforPassportServicesU.
S.
DepartmentofState2401EStreet,NW,9thFloorWashington,DC20522-0907Attn:OfficeofPassportPolicyandAdvisoryServicesTelephone:202-663-2662Fax:202-663-2654.
Therequestmustbeaccompaniedbysupportingdocumentationaccordingtothecategoryunderwhichvalidationissought.
Cur-rently,thefourcategoriesofpersonsspecifiedin22C.
F.
R.
51.
74asbeingeligibleforconsiderationforpassportvalidationareasfollows:(Continuedonpage66)TSE2006Page65Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTER(a)ProfessionalReporters:Thiscategoryincludesfull-timemembersofthereportingorwritingstaffofanewspaper,maga-zineorbroadcastingnetworkwhosepurposefortravelistogatherinformationaboutLibyafordisseminationtothegeneralpublic.
(b)AmericanRedCross:AnapplicantinthiscategorymustestablishthatheorsheisarepresentativeoftheAmericanRedCrossorInternationalRedCrosstravelingpursuanttoanofficially-sponsoredRedCrossmission.
(c)HumanitarianConsiderations:Anapplicantinthiscategorymustestablishthathisorhertripisjustifiedbycompellinghumanitarianconsiderationsorforfamilyunification.
Atthistime,"compellinghumanitarianconsiderations"includesitua-tionswheretheapplicantcandocumentthatanimmediatefamilymemberiscriticallyillinLibya.
Documentationconcern-ingfamilyillnessmustincludethenameandaddressoftherelative,andbefromthatrelative'sphysicianattestingtothena-tureandthegravityoftheillness.
"Familyunification"situationsmayincludecasesinwhichspousesorminorchildrenareresidinginLibyawithanddependentonaLibyannationalspouseorparentfortheirsupport.
(d)NationalInterest:Forthiscategory,theapplicant'srequestmustbeotherwisefoundtobeinthenationalinterest.
"Eclipseobservingdoesn'tappeartofitanyofthosecategories.
CarterRobertsFrom:gsims@iprimus.
com.
auCarter,Interesting.
Iwonderifthisappliestoanyothercountriestoo(ieUK,Australia,.
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Howdoesonegoaboutfindingthissortofinformation--GeoffFrom:GerardMFoleyTherearealotofpeopletravelingthesedays,withthefullblessingoftheStateDepartment,toplaceswhichIdonotfindtobeinmynationalinterest.
GerryFrom:FraserFarrellGeoff,The(Australian)DepartmentofForeignAffairs&Tradeisoneplacetostart.
TheirTravelAdvicebeginsat:http://www.
dfat.
gov.
au/consular/advice/index.
htmlFrom:PeterTiedtWRTthe2006eclipse,Iaminvestigatingthreeoptions-theseallinconjunctionwithanAfricanTourOperatorwhohasvastex-perienceinallAfricancountries.
Tours1&2willstartinCairo.
1.
DivetheRedSeafor4/5days,thenflytoBenghazi(orcloseby),thencoachtoapointabout300kmsouthintothedesertforabout4minoftotality.
2.
Pyramids,CulturalCairoandaNileCruisefor4/5days,theasforoption1.
3.
ThiswillcommenceinLagos(Nigeria)(orcloseby)andcharteraflighttoNENiger,wheretherewillbeadesertcampsetup,alsoforabout4minutesoftotality.
TheTibestiareaisamilitarisedzoneandisextensivelylandmined.
AlsotheChad/Libyabordercanonlybeusedbynationalsofthosecountries.
Ifanyonewantsdetailsastheyunfold,pleasee-mailmeofflist(rigel@stars.
co.
za)andIwillplaceyouonthemailinglist,whichhasabout40onitalready.
PeterTiedtFrom:Klipsi(Continuedonpage67)TSE2006Page66Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTER>Klipsi-haven'tyoualreadymadeinquiriesaboutobservingthisTSEfromLibyajustpreliminary.
butnodoubtitwillhappen.
aboutmypreviouspost,hotairballoon:ofcourseitisnotthatgood,astheSunisatzenith.
"didyouseetheeclipse""no""cloudedout""no.
Balloonedout!
"however,Ihadanothercrazyidea.
YouknowinAustraliatheydoeachyearthatsolarpoweredcarraceacrossthecontinent.
Now,wouldbegreattodoasolarpoweredcarraceacrosstheLybiandesert,andallcarswouldsignificantlyslowdownonE-day;-)KlipsiFrom:CarterRobertsGeoff,IhavenotcheckedbutknowbothLibyaandCubaareonthatlistandsuspectNorthKoreamaybe.
AnyplacethatU.
S.
TreasuryEconomicSanctionsareineffectisofflimitstoholdersofUSpassports.
Theplacetolookis:http://travel.
state.
gov/travel_warnings.
htmlIsubscribetotheirtraveladvisories.
Notethattheconsularinformationsheetsgivequitealotofusefulinformation.
CarterFrom:EvanZuckerThatalsosoundslikeaprettygoodtourtoviewthe2004TransitofVenus.
EVANFrom:Shivapuja@aol.
com>HEAR,HEAR!
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From:StigLinanderInrecentyears,EuropeanshavehadnoproblemsvisitingLibya.
Itdependsonthepoliticalsituationwhetherornotit'spossiblein2006.
Andthatsituationcanchangetotheworseinthemonthstocome.
OneofmyDanisheclipsefriendsvisitedLibyainNovember'01andhadatremendousexperience.
Tripolis,thebestpreservedRo-manruinsoutsideRomerightdowntotheMediterraneancoast,10dayscameltrekking.
Libyareallyhasalottoofferthevisitor.
SoI'mconsideringLibyatooforthe2006eclipse.
Bestregards,Stig.
From:BobMorrisUnlikesomeeclipseviewersonthislistIamnotrollinginmoney.
:-)Besides,Iwanttotakemywife(whowasinArubawithme)andmysonandhiswife.
IamcontemplatingviewingfromAntalya,Turky.
ThisMediterranean"TurkishRiviera"has3000hoursofsunlightperyear.
ThoughtheendofMarchisontheborderoftheperpetuallysunnyseason.
Totalityis3min45seconAntalyaBay,eastofthecitycentre.
(Continuedonpage68)TSE2006Page67Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERIcangettoIstanbulfromOttawaonAirCanadaairmilesthroughViennaviaLuthhansaandtheneitherflyorbustoAnta-lya(12hours),withthelattercostingabout$15USonewayfortwoseats(forcomfort)asadvisedbytheguidebooks.
CommentsBobMorris(Quebec,63;Greece,66;CapeCharles,70;Aruba,98)From:BobMorrishttp://www.
kesit.
com/antalya/index.
htmandhttp://www.
kesit.
com/guide/antalya.
htmAntalyaisaworldapartwithitslongsummers,mildwinters,unpollutedwatersandsandybeaches.
ThesnowremainsonthetopofTorosandBaymountainsduringhotseasonsandyoumayswiminthewarmwatersofMediterraneanatthesameday.
It'sthepearlofMediterranean.
Combininghistoryandcultureitdeservesthetitleof"capitalofTurkishtourism".
KaleiciwherequaintTurkishandGreekhousesareunderprotection,isthemostpopularcenterinAntalya.
TracesofByzantine,RomanandSeljuksarchitectureandculturecanstillbeseenintherusticoldtown.
Taketimetovisitthearcaelogicalmu-seumwhichhousesthefindsbelongingtohistoricagesofAnatolia.
InsidethecityYivliMinareandKulliye,Karaaliogluparkareinourhostofplacestosee.
KonyaaltiandLaracoastsinviteyoutoitscrystalclearwaters.
Antalyaisaholidayparadiseinalovelynaturalsetting.
Thepine-cladTorosMountainssweepdowntothecrystalclearseaforminganirregularcoastlineofrockyheadlandsandsecludedcaves.
Theregionisbathedinsunshinefor300daysoftheyearandisthusperfectforalazyholidayofsunbathingandswimming,orforsportingactivitiessuchaswindsurfing,water-skiing,sailing,mountainclimbing,huntingandspelunking.
ThosewhovacationinMarchandAprilcanskiinthemorningsandintheafternoonsswiminthewarmwatersoftheMedi-terranean.
Thecoastislinedwithmagnificentbeacheslappedbyclearbluewaters,andsurroundedbypineforests,oliveandcitrusgroves,palmtrees,avocadotreesandbananaplantations.
Importanthistoricalsitesawaitdiscoveryinthesemarvel-loussurroundings,whicharehometoarichvarietyofplantandwildlife,andwhicharenowprotectedasaconservationarea.
Holidaymakerswillfindeverythingheretheycanimagineforaperfectvocation.
TheTurkishRivieraisthetouristcapitolofTurkey.
Withitswiderangingaccomadition,fromtouristclasstodeluxehotels,thehospitablepeopleofAntalyaarealwaysreadytowelcomeyou.
CheckoutthefollowingforacloudcovermapofsouthernTurkey,includingAntalya,usedforatelescopesitingproject:http://pluto.
cc.
ankara.
edu.
tr/~derman/dermanenglish/sitetesting88/sittesting88.
htmlBobMorrisFrom:KidinVS@aol.
comForthoseinterested,Ihaveputtogethertotallysuccessfuleclipsepackagesfortheprevious7totaleclipses.
Iplan,atthemoment,tovisitTurkeythisMarchorApriltoputtogetheratourforthe2006eclipse.
Ifyouhavespecificquestionsaboutmyupcomingtour,pleasecontactmeoffline,andletmeknowyourconcerns,sothatwhenIaminTurkey,Icanfindtheanswerstoyourquestions.
Asalways,thecostsforthetourwillbeveryreasonable,verycomfortable,andalmostallinclusive.
RickBrownFrom:SheridanWilliamsWhyisno-oneconsideringTurkeytoviewthe2006eclipseBestwishesFrom:MarcWeihrauchHello,(Continuedonpage69)TSE2006Page68Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTER>IamcontemplatingviewingfromAntalya,Turky.
AtleastfortheEuropeansthatiscertainlyanoption.
Antalyaiseasilyandcheaptoreach,beingacenteroftourism.
Antalyaitselfisslightlyoutsidetheshadowpath,butIhopetofindadecentobservingplaceinthevicinity-however,Idon'tknowwhetherthatwillbeeasy.
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Ontheotherhandside,goingtoLybiaalsohasitsdrawbacks:Securitymaybeamatterofconcern,andalthoughyoudon'thavetofearcloudssandstormsmightspoiltheobservation.
WhenIseealltheseprosandconsIrealizewhataneasyoneAfrica2001was:)CheersMarcFrom:GovertSchillingIwillalsomostcertainlygotoTurkey.
Idon'tknowyetaboutdetailedweatherpredictions,butIwouldrecommendCappa-docia(totalityhitstheeasternpartofthisregion),whichhasincrediblybeautifulscenery.
Antalyaisanuglytouristregion,andmaybeyouwillexperiencehindrancefromthefactthatit'sonthecoast()--GovertFrom:JohnLeppertDearRick,Althoughwe'venottraveledwithyou(wewereatZambia2001),I'dbeinterestedinhavingyouplaceournamesonyourmailinglistforEclipse2006infoasitdevelops.
Thanks.
JohnLeppertFrom:RobertBSlobinsBeforemakinganydecisionsnow,IwouldliketoreadJayAnderson'scommentsontheeclipsetrack'smeteorology.
Whatwouldhappentodualnationals,e.
g.
onewhoholdsaUSandanothercountry'spassport,whogotoLybiaWouldheleavetheUSpassporthomecheers/rbsFrom:MarkAlsipTurkeyismyfirstchoiceforthe'06eclipse.
I'malsocuriouswhyit's(apparently)beingrelegatedtothebackburner.
Iob-served'99fromTurkeyandfellinlovewiththecountry(aswellastheweatherprospects).
Political/socialturmoilwasaconcernthen,asnow,butIMHOnotmoreorlessthanothercountriesinthepathoftotality.
From:KidinVS@aol.
comItdoesseemabitearlyforeveryonetostartplanningforthe2006event,andIsupposethatisbecausethethoughtofhavingtoliveforsolongwithoutaviableoptiontoseeaneclipsehaseveryoneupset,asIam.
IamnotgoingtoAntarcticatoseethenextone,anditisratherdepressingtothinkthatitwillbe3yearsuntilIwillseeanother.
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thatwillbemy9th.
However,withallthetalkofTurkey,andLibya,andChad,IthoughtthatImightaddmy2cents.
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Iwillmostassuredlyhaveagrandadventureplannedfor2006,withplentyofspaceformany.
Ibrought48peopletoTurkeyin1999,andweallhadatotallyamazingtime.
WeatherprospectslookgoodforthesoutherncoastalareaofTurkey.
Isimplywantedtosaythatwhetheryoujoinmygroup,ornot,Turkeyisanabsolutelywonderfulplacetovisit.
Itoffersluxury,ex-tremelykindandfriendlypeople,wonderfulfood,beautifulscenery,anditwillbespringtimethere.
ItraveledtoTurkeyinMarchof1997toplanthe1999trip,andIwentinMarchjusttohaveanideaofwhattheweatheris.
WeatherprospectsareprobablybetterinLibya,andChad,andworsenasyoumakeyourwayintoUkraine.
ThegreatthingaboutTurkeyisthatyouwillhavewonderfulmemoriesofyourtripevenwithpoorweatherfortheeclipse(butthatwillnothappen!
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)Ofcourse,politicswillplayarole,butfornow,Turkeyisthesafewaytogo.
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justmyopinion.
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RickBrownFrom:GovertSchillingWell,*I*am,forone.
Andforgoodreason:Iwastherein1999;it'saverybeautifulcountry,withveryfriendlypeople,verynice(Continuedonpage70)TSE2006Page69Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERweather,veryeasytotravelaround,goodfood,verycheap,etc.
AsIsaid:totalitywillcrossCappadocia,whichisincrediblybeautifulwithitsrockpillars,caves,etc.
(ForaquickGoogleImagesearch,see:http://images.
google.
com/imagesq=cappadocia&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en)--GovertFrom:Crocker,Tony(FSA)IthinktheonlyreservationsaboutTurkeyarerelatedtoweather.
SomeonefromTurkeyanalyzedweatherawhileback,andsummer(1999)vs.
spring(2006)inTurkeyissortoflike2001vs.
2002insouthernAfrica.
ManyofuswillwaituntilFred&Jayquantifytheweatherestimates.
IftheweatheroddsinTurkeyarereasonable,Isuspectitwillbeapopularchoice.
From:Klipsiohno,lotsofpeopleare,andlotswillgotoTurkey.
ButMarchinTurkeymayhaveclouds/rain,probablyalittlemoreriskythanLybia(Jay)and,Lybiaoffersover4minutesoftotality.
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KlipsiFrom:BobMorrisAntalyaseemstobedirectlyintheshadowpath(3'22"),withthecenterline(3'42")slightlyeastofthecity--accordingtoWinEclipse.
BobMorrisFrom:BobMorrisWell,thewebsitereferencesIgavemustbeliesthen(intermsofugliness)!
:-)Andthesunshinelineof3000hoursperyear(nearly10hoursperday)seemstoindicatethatthebayregionhasverygoodluckwithsunshine!
Themapwasdrawnupforatelescopesitingproject.
BobMorrisFrom:BobMorrisOnMon,13Jan2003,SheridanWilliamswrote:>Whyisno-oneconsideringTurkeytoviewthe2006eclipseAspermyposts,Iam.
Theonlychoicesfrommypointofvieware:1)TheEgyptianbordereastofLibya.
2)AcheapcruiseshipoutofCrete.
3)Anatalya,TurkeyObviously,I'dre-assessthepoliticalproblemsonMarch26,2005--thedatewhenIcanbookflights--buttheMiddleEastdoesn'tlooktoogreat.
TheshadowBTWcomesalmostdirectlyfromthesouthatAntalyaBay,overtheMed--soperhapsgoodchanceofseeingshadow.
Ontheotherhand(a)Turkeyseemdtobeagoodsitein1999.
(b)Antalyalooksgreatintermsofsunshine.
(Continuedonpage71)TSE2006Page70Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTER(c)ThereseemstobeallindicationsthatTurkeyisbehavingherselfinanattempttogetinto"Europe.
"AsImentionedearlier,AirCanadawillflyyouanywhereinCanadatoIstanbulviaLuthansafor(currently)60,000airmiles--andIcanstopinViennaforafewdaysnoextracharge.
Tomethisisimportantasourswillbea4persongroup.
ObviouslyIwaitFred'sbulletinscheduledfor2004.
Butthattelescopesurveyseemstoholdsomeweightforme.
BobMorrisFrom:Shivapuja@aol.
comhowaboutaboardacruiseshipinthesouthernmediterraneanFrom:GovertSchillingBob:>Butthattelescopesurveyseemstoholdsomeweightforme.
Thetelescopesiteissome50kmnorthofthetownofAntalya,some2550metershighupintheTaurusmountains,onBakirlitepe,Ibelieve.
There,thesceneryisagainnice,andyoumaynothavetoworrytoomuchaboutsmogetc.
Asfor'ugliness':ofcourse,Antalyaisgreat,sinceitisaveryancientcity,butitsimmediatesurroundings(and,forthatmat-ter,almostalloftheMeditteraneancoast)isjustchokefullofuglyconcretetouristhotels,andthetownisfullwithEuro-peantourists,coaches,etc.
Ididn'tlikeit.
--GovertFrom:GovertSchillingActually,IthinkAntalyaisquiteabitwestofcenterline-justabouthalfwaycenterlineandthenorhtwesternedgeoftotal-ity.
Totalitytherelastst3m46s;sunisat55degrees.
--GovertFrom:MarcWeihrauchHello,wheredidIhavemymindBob,you'rerightofcourse.
ImusthaveusedwrongcoordinateswhenIcalculatedthatone.
Sorryforthefalseclaim.
ButnowI'mevenmoreafraidthetownwillbetoocrowdedformytaste.
CheersMarcFrom:GovertSchillingThemountaintopwheretheTurkishNationalObservatoryisbeingbuild,isindeedBakirlitepe,butitturnsouttobeprettymuch*west*(andalittlebitsouth)ofAntalya,butstillintheouterpartsofthezoneoftotality.
Seehttp://www.
tug.
tFrom:BobMorrisThebigquestionremains:accordingtotheiso-sunshinelinesonthemapIreferenced,Anyalyaforsomereasonhasnearly10hoursofsunshineaday.
SodoesthelateMarchcloudinessaffectAntalyaorwhatSurelyweshouldn'thavetowaitfor2004tofindout:-)BobMorrisFrom:Klipsi(Continuedonpage72)TSE2006Page71Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTER>Theonlychoicesfrommypointofvieware:>1)TheEgyptianbordereastofLibya.
>2)AcheapcruiseshipoutofCrete.
>3)Anatalya,Turkeyhowaboutthese:-spectacularsunrisetotaleclipsefromeasterntipofBrazil!
-greatesteclipseinsouthernLybia-sunsettotalityonSibirian/MongolianborderKlipsiFrom:PeterTiedtKlipsithereareanumberofotherchoices.
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Tibestimountains(iftheyareaccessible/allowed)willbe#1WatchingfromthetopofawesomedunesinSLibya.
TotalitybycamelinNiger(imagineapicoftotality,withacamel'shumpintheframe;-)TherearealsoanumberofoptionsinTogoandBenin,whicharebeautifulcountries.
Nigeriamayalsohavesomeinterest-ingoptions.
From:GJMaddenIthinkSELibyaisaverygooddestination.
Ofcoursethereareseriouspoliticalissuestodealwith.
However,I'mwonderingifKaddafimightnotseeanopportunitytobringinsomebigdollarshereandextendwelcomestoforeignvisitorsforthiseventAmIdreamingIt'ssometimeoff,andanythingcanhappenbetweennowandthen,butthiswillbemyfirstchoiceifitbecomesapossibility.
GeorgeMaddenFrom:StigLinanderThenyou'llneedafisheyelensastheSunwillbealmostinZenith.
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;-)Stig.
From:HalCouzensWhatarethemaindifferencesbetweeneclipseswiththesuntowardsitszenithandatsunsetIamparticularlyinterestedintheeffectthesunpositionhasonthe360degreesunset'extravaganza'.
ThevariousgoodshotsfromAustraliaof4DecshowsomeoftheeffectattheSun'spositionbutnotwhatishappeningtothehori-zonbehindyou(yeahIknowthatisnotthedirectiontobefocussingone'sattentionon).
HalCouzensFrom:PeterTiedtImaybewayoffbeam,butIshouldimaginethatthe"360degsunsetcolourseffect"islargelydependentonthedimensionsandorientationoftheshadowfootprint.
Ineffectthe"sunsetcolours"areattheedgeoftheumbra,andyouareinfactlookingtowardstheareasofpartiality.
Therefore,nearthepathlimits,whentheumbraishighlyelongated,Iwouldexpectthiseffecttobemorecolourfulperpendiculartothemajoraxisoftheumbralshadow.
(Continuedonpage73)TSE2006Page72Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERConversely,awayfromthepathlimits,wheretheumbraisalmostcircular,theeffectshouldbemoreuniform.
My2cworth:-)Let'shearitfromtherealexperts.
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PeterFrom:RichardMonkYesIagree-lotsofchoicesalongthepathoftotality.
WestAfricasoundsgreatbuttendstobeverycloudyuntilyougetfarinland.
Nigeriaespeciallywashot,humidandcloudythelasttimeIlivedoutthere.
MymapsshowthatthecentralpathhitstheMediterraneanontheEgypt/Lybiaborder,sothereisachanceforaNorthAfricansiteforthoseputoffbytheLybiare-gime.
SpringtimeinAntalyasoundsdelightfulthough.
MapsofNorthAfricanandTurkishpathsarepostedonthepushpinspageonmywebsite.
RichardFrom:GovertSchillingIguessyou'reright.
Atsunriseorsunset,themoon'sshadowontheEarth'ssurfaceisaveryelongatedellipse,soifthereareanycolorsvisibleatall,itwillonlybe'sideways',i.
e.
perpendiculartothedirectionofthesun.
However,Idon'tthinkthecolorswillbeasvividastheyarewhenthesunisatahigheraltitude.
IsawtheTSEof22July1990fromasmallislandjustsouthofHelsinki,Finland.
Totalityoccurredduringsunrise.
Theskywasclear,butthesunwasinvisblebecuaseofathickbandofcloudsontheeasternhorizon,soIpaidmoreattentiontotheshadow,whichshouldapproachfromtheright(whenfacingthesun).
WhatIsawwasextremelyimpressive:themoon'sshadow'cilinder'showedaremarkableperspectiviceffect,andtheapproachingshadowlookedlikeawedge-shapedwallofdarkness,withitsvertexatthepositionofthemoon.
Difficulttodescribe,butitappearedasiftheshadowhadsomesortof'pivotalpoint'atthemoon'spositionintheeast,andjustrotatedacrosstheobservers.
Withhindsight,it'seasytoexplain,butitmadeahugeimpressiononme.
--GovertFrom:GerardMFoleyHerearetwohorizonshotsfromtheIndianOceannearMozambique:http://foley.
ultinet.
net/~gerry/africar/africa22.
htmlhttp://foley.
ultinet.
net/~gerry/africar/africa23.
htmlGerryFrom:RichardMonkOops-Iforgottoappendmywebsiteaddress.
http://homepage.
ntlworld.
com/rimonk/index.
htmRichardFrom:GerardMFoleyIwrite:On4December,2002,whentheeclipseshadowapproached"OlympicCountess",withsunandmoonaboveheavycloud,twomoderatelylargebirdsflewoutofthewest,spentafewmomentsflyinginfrontofthenearlystationaryship,andthenflewoneastward,inanapparentattempttoavoidbeingoverwhelmedbythewallofdarkness.
GerryFrom:MikeMurphyGeoff,here'sthecurrentUKtravleadviceformtheFCO'swebsite:Regards-Mike-----BeginningofpastefromFCOsiteStillCurrentat:14January2003Updated:27November2002LibyaSUMMARYMostvisitstoLibyaaretrouble-free.
Followingrecentdevelopments,includingtheterroristbombingofanightclubinBalion12October,UKnationalsworld-wideshouldbeawareofindiscriminateattacksonciviliantargetsinpublicplaces,includingtouristsites.
(Continuedonpage74)TSE2006Page73Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERSAFETYANDSECURITYSafetyandsecurityisgenerallygoodbuttheconflictbetweenIsraelisandPalestiniansishavinganeffectonthewholere-gion.
Thereisariskofpublicdisturbancesthroughoutthearea,inresponsetoeventsintheOccupiedTerritories.
Travellersneedtobeawareofthisriskandalerttonewsreports,whichmighttriggerdisturbances.
Therehavebeencasesofforeignersbeingtargetedforrobberyathome,onremotebeachesandindesertregions.
Traveltosuchareasshouldbeundertakeningroups.
Therehavealsobeenanumberofcar-jackingsatgunpointinTripoliandelse-where.
TERRORISMWearenotawareofanyspecificthreattoBritishnationalsinLibya.
Visitorsshouldbecareful,however,toavoidsituationswheretheremightbetension.
Anydemonstrationsandpubliceventsshouldbeavoided.
Increasedsecurityatairportsmeanstravellersshouldallowextratimeforcheckingin.
Travellersareadvisedtocontacttheirairlineforthelatestinformation.
LOCALTRAVELUNSecurityCouncilsanctions,inforcefromApril1992untilApril1999,includedabanonthesupplyofaircraftandcom-ponents,engineeringandmaintenanceservicesforLibyanaircraftandotherrelatedservicesbyforeigncompanies.
There-sultsofthisbanmaystillaffectthesafetyandreliabilityofinternalflights.
ROADSAFETYThestandardofdrivinginLibyaispoor.
CareshouldbetakenwhendrivinganywhereinLibya.
Drivingdefensivelyisad-vised.
Alwayswearaseatbelt.
LOCALLAWSANDCUSTOMSSternpenaltiesareimposedforthepossessionoruseofalcoholandharshpenaltiesforcriticisingthecountry,itsleadershiporreligion.
Visitorsshouldonnoaccountattempttobringalcoholintothecountry.
LibyaisaMuslimcountryandvisitorsshoulddressaccordingly,coveringarms,shouldersandlegs.
Avoidshorts,tightfit-tingorrevealingclothesinpublic.
Visitorsareadvisednottousecamerasclosetomilitaryorofficialsites.
Libyaisacashsociety.
Hardcurrency"USdollarsisthecurrencyofchoice"shouldbedeclaredonarrivalattheairport.
Onlyairlinesacceptcreditcards.
ENTRYREQUIREMENTSBritishnationalsshouldobtainavisabeforetravellingtoLibya.
Forfurtherinformationonentryrequirements,visitorsareadvisedtocheckwiththeLibyanPeople(tm)sBureauinLondonat61/2EnnismoreGardens,London,SW71NH,Tel;02075896109,fax;75896087.
HEALTHHealthcaremaynotalwaysbeofthesamestandardasthatavailableintheUK.
YouareadvisedtocheckwithyourGPforadviceonvaccinations.
GENERALVisitorsareadvisedtocarrysomeformofidentificationwiththematalltimes.
Allvisitorsshouldtakeoutadequatecomprehensive(Continuedonpage75)TSE2006Page74Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERinsuranceincludingfullcoverformedicaltreatmentandaccidents.
AllBritishnationalsshouldregisterwiththeBritishEmbassyinTripoli.
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LavoieTheCanadianGvttraveladviceissimilar,addingthatLibyanregulationimposestouselocaltouroperatorsfortravelinginthecountry.
IknowafewpeoplewhotraveledtoLibyaandneverencounteredanyproblem.
IalsoheardthattravelingtotheSEdesert,wheretotalityismaximum,canbedoneeitherbycamelortruckandisaveryinterestingexperience,althoughsomeareasaretobeavoidedbecauseofthepresenceofanti-personellandmines.
Also,rememberthatLibyaoffersavarietyofarcheologicalsites,especiallyverywellpreservedRomansites,andthatitiseasytocombineavisittoLibyawithoneinEgypt.
Asforconsularservices,CanadaandUKhaveembassiesinTripoli.
So,Libyawillprobablybemydestinationin2006.
ForUScitizenswhoexperiencetravelrestrictionsbutwouldwanttowitnesstheTSE2006fromLibya,theycanusethesametrickasalotofotherAmericancitizenswhoalreadytraveltoCuba,Libyaorotherforbiddencountries:theyflyfromCan-ada,MexicoorEuropeandhaveavisastampedonaflyerthatisannexedtotheirpassport,whichtheyremovebeforegoingbacktothelandofthefree.
Andvoilà!
NoproblemwiththeUSImmigrationServices.
Naturaly,Libyacanrefuseentrance,andIdon'tthinktheUSAofferconsularservicesinTripoli.
RichardD.
LavoieAssocProfJRHuddleConcerningAntalya,Turkey,BobMorriswrote,"Andthesunshinelineof3000hoursperyear(nearly10hoursperday)seemstoindicatethatthebayregionhasverygoodluckwithsunshine!
"Firstofall,3000hoursofsunlightperyearaveragesoutto3000/365=8.
2hoursofsunlightperday,whichIwouldconsidersignificantlylessthantenhoursperday.
Anotherwayoflookingatthingsistoestimatethatoneyearhas365x12=4380hoursof"daytime",atleastnominally,sothat(3000hoursofsun)/(4380hoursofdaylight)suggestsaprobabilityofclearskiesofsomethinglike68percent.
AcriterionIuseisthatiftheprobabilityofclearskiesisnotgreaterthan2/3,Ireallywanttolookforabetterplace.
Ac-cordingtomyadmittedlyroughcalculations,Antalyasatisfiesmy"66percentorbetter"rule,thoughnotbymuch.
Still,thealternativesareLibya,Chad,andEgypt.
ColonelKhadaffiisstillabitupsetwiththeUSAoverthatbombingwedidinrelatliationforLockerbie,andChadisabitupsetwiththeUSAover.
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well,Idon'tknow,exactly,andthereasondoesn'tmat-teranyway.
Americansarestronglyadvisedtostayoutofthosecountries.
(TheadviceIhaveheardgiventodualnationalsistotakeonepassportortheother,butnotboth.
OratleasthideyourU.
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passportverycarefully:TheonlythingworsethanbeingAmericaninsuchcountriesisbeingcaughttryingtohidethefactthatyouareAmerican.
)ForAmericans,then,thatonlyleavesthattinylittlenorthwesterncornerofEgypt-isthatlittletowntherecalled"AsSalium"Thereislittletonotouristinfrastructureinthatarea.
ThereISahotelinthatareaofEgypt,butIdon'tknowanythingaboutit.
AsSaliumisabout500km(driving)fromAlexandria,andtheroadisnotanAutobahn,soyouprobablydon'twanttobaseinAlex,drivetoAsSaliumforeclipseday,thendrivebacktoAlexaftertheeclipseisover.
Oh,youcoulddoit,butthewholepointistohavefun.
IthinkweneedmoreintelaboutAsSalium,butIwillprobablyendupinAntalyaorCappadociaoneclipseday,leadinganexcur-sionthroughTurkeywithInnovationsInTravel.
Wedidasimilartripin1999,observingtheeclipseinElazig.
Turkeyhassomereallycoolstufftosee,thoughtherealityofTroywaslessthatwhatmymindhadfantasized.
There'salotof"cradleofcivilization"stuff,ifthat'syourbag-andmineis!
Whetheryoulikethatstuffornot,besuretohittheMuseumofAnatolianCivilizationsinAn-kara.
ThefoodinTurkeyisgood,butyouwillprobablygettiredof"lamb,"whichisoften"mutton.
"TheEphesusBeerisgreat!
Justdon'texpecttofindadecentMargarita.
(Continuedonpage76)TSE2006Page75Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERIfyou'dliketokeepinformedofInnovationsInTravel'splansforthe2006eclipse,pleasesendane-mailtoRenate@innovationsintravel.
com,andmentionyousawthisontheSEML.
BestRegards,JimHuddleFrom:Jay.
M.
Pasachoff@williams.
eduIthinktheproblemisnotwhetheryoucansneakintoacountryorwhetherpeopleyouknoworknowofhavenavigateditsafely.
Thequestioniswhathappensifyouhaveatrafficaccidentoranaltercationorareframedforsomesituation--canyoubedefendedorhelped.
Itjustisn'tworththechanceofgettinglifeimprisonmentorworsetogotoacountrywhereyoucan'tbehelped.
JayPasachoffFrom:Kidinvs@aol.
comThereisoneotheraspectthatIthinkneedbeconsideredinchoosinganappropriatevenuefor2006,giventhechoices.
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AsIplanonescortingagroupofabout50people(averagesizeforme),Iwillprobablybespendinginexcessof$100,000onfood,lodging,andtransportinternally.
Giventhechoiceofcountries,andwhattheyoffer,itseemstomethatthereisnoquestionastowheremygroupwillbe,providedweatherprospects,andpoliticsremainlittlechanged.
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ThereisnoreasonthatIwouldchoosetodeliberatelyspendthatmuchmoneyinthoseothercountries.
TheTurks,attheveryleast,deserveit.
RickBrownFrom:RichardD.
LavoieYouareright.
AmericanscouldhaveconsularservicesinLibyathroughanalliedcountryembassy,butasitisillegaltotraveltoLibyaforAmericans,theywouldhaveproblemwiththeirowngovernment.
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AndthereisalwaystheriskoftheLibyanauthoritieswantingtomakeanexampleofabenignincidentinvolvinganAmerican.
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From:FabioPettinatiItalwayshelpsifyouknowsomeoneinthecountry(Iran'99:mynextdoorneighbor'ssisterandfamilytookcareofme;Es-fahanwasagreatexperience)orspeakthelanguage(Angola'01:IspeakPortuguesefromBrazilsocommunicationwastheeasypart--witnessingtremendouspovertywasverydifficult).
Libyasoundsattractive,andImighthaveenoughmoneysaveduntilthentoconsidergoingthere.
Ofcourse,theimpendingwar(edition2003)inIraqwillnotmakethingseasyforUSresidents.
FabioSanJose,CAFrom:GJMaddenIsuggestthatthingsmaychangeinthenextthreeyearssuchthatreliablepredictionsregardinggovernments,politicsandlaws,par-ticularlyinNorthAfrica,areverylikelytochangesignificantly.
IdothinkthatLibyawillwelcomehardcurrency(readAmericandollars)giventhechanceandalegitimatereasonsuchasanhis-toricaleventsuchasanTSE.
Politics,especiallytheinternationalvariety,isinsane.
Nothingispredictable.
GeorgeMaddenFrom:RichardMonkIhaveaddedsomemoremapsofthe2006TSEcapturedfromEncartaAtlas.
Youcanfindtheminthe"pushpins"linkonmywebpage.
RichardFrom:MikeSimmonsI'mwritingfromIran,havingjustarrivedfromIraqwhichiscoveredbyverysimilarregulations.
TherearemanyAmericanstravel-inginIraqdespitethisandtherearewaysaroundthoseregulationsforthosethatwhichtogotothetrouble.
TheregulationyouquotebelowpresentsverylittleproblemasitispossibletotraveltherewithoutusingyourUSpassport.
InthecaseofIraqthereareothermoreproblematicissuesinvolvingsanctionsagainstanyfinancialinteractionswithanybusinessinIraq,eventravelrelated(mytravelwasprovidedsoIdidn'tspendmyownmoney).
Idon'tknowtheissueswithLibyaandtheremightberealconcernsthere(Continuedonpage77)TSE2006Page76Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERbutIcansaythatofthethousandsofAmericansthathavevisitedIraqwhiletheseregulationshavebeenineffectonlythreehavebeenprosecuted.
ThosethreeweremembersofagroupthatwerevociferousandaggressiveintheiroppositiontothesanctionsandessentiallydaredthegovernmenttodosomethingabouttheirtraveltoIraq,whichtheydid.
Otherwise,thegovernmentregulationsaremeanttokeepbusinessesfromdoingbusinesswithIraq,notforthosevisitingastouristsforafewdays.
Evenifthereisatechnicalviolationofalawwe'rejustnotworththetroubleandexpensesincewe'renotengagedinanyactionsthattheregulationsaredesignedtostop.
WhileLibyamaynotbethevacationchoiceofAmericaneclipsechasersI'msureitispossibletotravelthere.
IwouldnothesitatetodosobutIwouldencourageanyoneconsideringittotalkwithothersthathaveappropriateexperienceandknowledgetoadviseyouonhowtokeepfromrunningafoulofthelaw.
Ofcourse,thismailinglistisinternationalandthisdiscussionappliestoUScitizensonly.
MikeSimmonsFrom:MikeSimmonsIthinkwhetherofnottakeyourUSpassportisirrelevantifyou'renotusingittotravelthere,i.
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ThereisathinlinehereandsomewouldconsideritatechnicalitybutIwon'tgointothedetailshere(writetomeoffthelistifyou'reinterested).
Ifyouhaveapassportfromanothercountrythenthatissueisnon-existentifthatcountrydoesn'thavesimilarlaws.
However,ifthereareeconomicsanctionsthatprohibitUScitizensfromspendingmoneyinthecountrythenthatisamoreseriousproblemthatyouneedtocarefullyinvestigatebeforegoing.
Regardlessofhowyougetintothecountrythoseregulationswillstillapplytoyouandyoucouldbesubjecttoprosecutionuponyourreturn.
Inpracticethisneverhappensexceptinspecialcircumstancescreatedbythetraveler.
Therearesimplewaysaroundtheseregulationsbutsincetheyjustdon'tgoafterindividualsforviolatingthesanctionsithasn'tbeendeterminedifthesemethodsaresufficient.
Ifyou'reconsideringitthenIcouldtalktoyouoffthelistaboutwhatIknowoftravelingtoIraqbutLibyamaybeentirelydifferent.
MikeSimmonsFrom:MikeSimmonsI'mquitesurethisistrueaswellasthepoliticaladvantageofshowingAmericansandotherwesternersagoodtimeinhiscountry.
Mytravelsinother"hostile"countrieshasshownthatwhiletheymaydespisethegovernmentofmycountrytheyfeelAmericansare"verygoodpeople".
ThosewerethewordsspokentomejustyesterdaybyruralpeopleinnortheasternIraq,acountrydevastatedbytheUS-ledUNeconomicsanctions.
I'mnowinIran--another"AxisofEvilcountry"--onmythirdvisithereandthepeoplearemorepro-AmericanthanonecouldimaginedespitetheofficialdemonstrationsagainsttheGreatSatan.
CheckwithotherswithexperienceinLibyaandthelegalconsiderationsbutmyexperienceleadsmetobeopti-misticthattheywillbeverywarmandwelcomingtowardsyou,moresothaninmostUSlocations.
>It'ssometimeoff,andanythingcanhappenbetweennowandthen,butthiswillbemyfirstchoiceifitbecomesapossibil-ity.
Thatbeingthecase,andifyouarereadyformoreadventuroustravelthanmostothers,IwouldlookintoitfromsourcesotherthantheUSStateDepartment.
MikeSimmonsFrom:MikeSimmonsThisgetsaroundtheproblemofusingaUSpassportfortravelingtothecountrybutifthereareeconomicsanctionsagainstspendingmoneyinLibyathenthereareotherstepstobetaken,suchasbookingatripthroughanagentandpayingforitoutsideofthecoun-trythroughanotheragent.
Thisdoesn'tnecessarilyeliminateanyriskofbeingprosecutedsinceyou'restillintechnicalviolationbutitdoesremoveanyevidencethatyouhavespentmoneyinthecountry.
ThereisstillaverysmallriskbutinpracticetheUSgovern-mentdoesn'tgoafterindividualssincetheeconomicsanctionsaremeanttostopbusinessesthatcouldhelptheeconomyofthetar-getedcountry.
ButYMMVandinthiscasetheconsequencesareimportanttounderstandthroughadequateresearchandadviceaheadoftime.
BecausetraveltoLibyaislimitedbyUSlawandbecause(Ithink)therearenodiplomaticrelationsbetweentheUSandLibyathereisnotlikelytobeanyUSconsularofficeavailablethere.
InsomecountriesthatdonothavediplomaticrelationswiththeUSbutwheretravelisnotprohibitedtherearesomelimitedservicesavailableattheembassyofafriendlycountrybutthoseservicesarelimitedandoneshouldnotconsidergoingthereifyoufeeltheneedtohavetheprotectionofaUSembassyduringyourtravel.
MikeSimmons(Continuedonpage78)TSE2006Page77Volume8Issue2SOLARECLIPSENEWSLETTERFrom:MikeSimmonsImustverystronglydisagreewiththeadvicegivenaboveandIwouldsuggestthatitmaynotbebasedonanyobjectiveevi-dence.
IjustleftIraqyesterday--acountrythatwasbombedbytheUSquiteabitmorethanLibya,hasbeendevastatedmuchworsethanthatbytheUS-ledUNeconomicsanctionsandisnowfacinganevengreaterthreatofattackbytheUS.
NeveroncedidIencounteranysentimentagainstAmericancitizens.
IwaswarmlywelcomedbyeveryoneImet.
UnlikeUScitizens,citizensofothercountriesusuallymakeadistinctionbetweenthepoliciesofagovernmentandthecitizensofthecountry.
Evenwithchanceencountersinruralareaswithoutanypossibilityofgovernment-orchestratedinteractionsbetweenusthepeopleweredelightedtomeetanAmericanandquicktosayhowmuchtheylikedus,saying--despiteallthey'vegonethroughatourhands--thatAmericansaregoodpeople.
Thattheywouldsaysomethingdifferentifaskedaboutourleadersiscertainbutthat'sdifferent,atleastintheirview.
Rememberthatpeoplelivingundertotalitarianregimesdon'treallythinkaboutacountry'scitizensbeingresponsiblefortheirgovernments'actions.
IamnowinIranonmythirdvisit,andwithmuchgreaterexperiencehereIcansaythatthepeoplehereareextraordinarilypro--Americanregardingthepeopleandculture.
Theydon'tlikeUSpoliciestowardsthemnorourleadersbutAmericansarehonoredandwelcomedguests.
Itravelto"suchcountries"andproudlyanswertheinevitable"whereareyoufrom"withouthidingthefactthatI'manAmerican.
ThisusuallyleadstoveryrewardinginteractionswiththelocalpeoplewhooftenhaveneverbeforemetaUScitizenandareanxiousfordialogue,includingthetruthabouttheUSandourimpressionsoftheircountry.
Idon'tknowany-thingaboutLibyabutIwouldadvisethosethatareinterestedintravelingtoLibyatoseekfactualinformationfromthosewithdirectknowledgeoftherealityoftraveltherebeforedeciding.
TothosewhodismisstravelingtoLibyaoutofhandasdangerousIwouldstronglysuggestpickinganotherlocationastherearemanywonderfulplacestovisit.
MikeSimmonsFrom:MikeSimmonsIhavetoagreewithJaythatthesearerealconcerns.
Sometakethechanceandothersdon't.
WithJaytravelingwithalargegroupandwiththerequirementsofhistravelthesecountrieswouldbeapoorchoice,IMHO.
Notthatthereisasmuchdan-gerasJaymightsuggest--whichIfearisnotbasedonanyobjectiveevidenceregardingwhatactuallyoccursinsuchcoun-tries--buttherequirementsoftravelvaryfrompersontoperson.
Forsome,theverysmalladditionalrisksinvolved(ifin-deedthereareany)arequiteacceptable,forotherstheyarenot.
MikeSimmonsFrom:MikeSimmonsOnwhatdoyoubasetheexistenceofthisriskIknowofnosuchactionofthegovernmentinother"hostile"countries.
WhatmakesLibyadifferentTherearerealconcernsabouttravelinginsomecountriesbutthediscussionshouldbebasedonevidenceratherthanspeculation.
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